Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2017 46 minutes ago, BOF said: Assume for a moment that the other side (i.e. the conspiracy side) are correct. All on purpose. Pre-meditated. Sevilla end up getting the use of the player for no transfer fee (which is their real MO) and maybe even on reduced wages given the dodgy(sic) knee. The net gain for them this season is huge. Then next season the player has one year less on his Villa contract, the fee is further reduced. He still has that dodgy(sic) knee, and rinse and repeat. Sevilla are miserable bastards. It's a very risky approach if you ask me. Both player and selling club now pissed off with them and probably way more likely to let the player go somewhere else. I can see the logic and how it's possible, but I think it's unlikely. My OP was really just contesting those who couldn't see why Sevilla were doing it and thought it outrageous. Honestly it makes perfect sense to me. If they genuinely weren't happy with the medical, which is the real question, then I'm not surprised one bit that they asked for a loan instead. I'd be happy if Villa did the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It's a very risky approach if you ask me. Both player and selling club now pissed off with them and probably way more likely to let the player go somewhere else. I can see the logic and how it's possible, but I think it's unlikely. My OP was really just contesting those who couldn't see why Sevilla were doing it and thought it outrageous. Honestly it makes perfect sense to me. If they genuinely weren't happy with the medical, which is the real question, then I'm not surprised one bit that they asked for a loan instead. I'd be happy if Villa did the same. Assuming that their position is as you describe.....you are spot on. Assume being the operative word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 So there is a geezer at Seville who wanted to scupper an £8m deal for Amavi - Can we find this guy and recruit him - he could save us millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I wish we were more ruthless (perhaps like Sevilla) than we have been when dealing with transfers in the past. How much last season, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2017 25 minutes ago, TRO said: Assuming that their position is as you describe.....you are spot on. Assume being the operative word? Well yes, exactly. If their position is otherwise then we're still assuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 58 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It's a very risky approach if you ask me. Both player and selling club now pissed off with them and probably way more likely to let the player go somewhere else. I can see the logic and how it's possible, but I think it's unlikely. My OP was really just contesting those who couldn't see why Sevilla were doing it and thought it outrageous. Honestly it makes perfect sense to me. If they genuinely weren't happy with the medical, which is the real question, then I'm not surprised one bit that they asked for a loan instead. I'd be happy if Villa did the same. I agree with this but I don't they should be announcing the reason the deal feel through. It's not fair on the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I agree with this but I don't they should be announcing the reason the deal feel through. It's not fair on the player. It's entirely normal though isn't it? Deals fall through because of failed medicals all the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It's entirely normal though isn't it? Deals fall through because of failed medicals all the time It's it normally undisclosed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2017 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: It's it normally undisclosed? I don't really know. But you hear of transfers falling through because the player has failed his medical pretty regularly so I don't think it's unusual for the reason to be disclosed, even if it's not always done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) For me, I don't rate the player of late( post injury) very highly.....but it has now scuppered our ability to recruit and subsequently to prepare our team for this forth coming season. so yes, for that reason,I am disappointed. Edited July 12, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, TRO said: For me, I don't rate the player of late( post injury) very highly.....but it has now scuppered our ability to recruit and subsequently to prepare our team for this forth coming season. so yes, for that reason,I am disappointed. I am not if the money was going to be used on elmo and whelan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Just now, Demitri_C said: I am not if the money was going to be used on elmo and whelan Just now, Demitri_C said: I am not if the money was going to be used on elmo and whelan ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 5 hours ago, bobzy said: I wish we were more ruthless (perhaps like Sevilla) than we have been when dealing with transfers in the past. How much last season, again? I think the Dr is proving himself to be pretty ruthless by telling Sevilla now to f*ck off. Can't imagine the previous incumbent doing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Godders said: I think the Dr is proving himself to be pretty ruthless by telling Sevilla now to f*ck off. Can't imagine the previous incumbent doing that. We've hardly been ruthless the other way. £13m for McCormack, £12m for Hogan, £12m for Kodjia... etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Considering he's just seen a move away has just fallen through, he's playing very well so far. Fair play as it would be easy to sulk. Linking up well with green. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 On 7/11/2017 at 12:53, Demitri_C said: Sevilla can get lost the rocket polishers Knew it was lies, never do business with these clowns again They sold us Luna, enough to never do business with them again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Playing very well at Telford, found his level blah blah blah, still doing the business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Wrong thread Edited July 12, 2017 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Certainly didn't play tonight as though his head is elsewhere. I hope we hold on to him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, KJT123 said: Certainly didn't play tonight as though his head is elsewhere. I hope we hold on to him. Perhaps playing to be elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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