Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2017 28 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Ita not really the point though is it. They have come up with downright lies which know effects our club as now clubs will think he has injury problems meaning less money. Its absolutely disgraceful behaviour from them Are they lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 They've lost Monchi to Roma. Guess whoever is handling their business now is a bit of a cabròn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, Stevo985 said: Are they lying? Why would you come back in for him on loan if you have concerns about his injury/medical ? Trying to hussle us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Why would you come back in for him on loan if you have concerns about his injury/medical ? Trying to hussle us Because you don't want to risk 8M on a player that could have a season (or worse) threatening knee problem but would be willing to risk a loan knowing the parent club would have to take the player back should the issue resurface. They must have found something to announce that he failed a medical. Edited July 11, 2017 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 11, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Because you don't want to risk 8M on a player that could have a season (or worse) threatening knee problem but would be willing to risk a loan knowing the parent club would have to take the player back should the issue resurface. They must have found something to announce that he failed a medical. While all of that is true, it still leaves Sevilla going into next season with a leftback that they don't trust physically. Which would be slightly negligent on their behalf, and calls into question their motives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, BOF said: While all of that is true, it still leaves Sevilla going into next season with a leftback that they don't trust physically. Which would be slightly negligent on their behalf, and calls into question their motives. Agree the way Sevilla have gone about business is pretty disgraceful. I just think they must have discovered something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Wouldn't even respond to the offer, just block their number and move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 40 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Maybe in a world where we're looking to get wages off the books to comply with FFP, and we're worried we won't be able to sell him now that he's failed a medical. I don't know if that's the case, but it's feasible. I don't think Dr X has come across as an owner who will buckle at the first sight of an offer that's below what we reasonably expect to get. Amavi could be loaned out and save us another season of wages, but it's much more likely that we'll sell him for a fee, as that's going to be much better for us financially - plus the fact that he's obviously been chosen by Bruce as a player that we can do without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted July 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Wouldn't even respond to the offer, just block their number and move on. Sounds like my love life. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Because you don't want to risk 8M on a player that could have a season (or worse) threatening knee problem but would be willing to risk a loan knowing the parent club would have to take the player back should the issue resurface. They must have found something to announce that he failed a medical. Yes, but you pays your money and you takes your chances. Nobody is begging Sevilla to take him off our hands, he is still a valuable asset to us. If they don't want to risk £8m on him then don't, their choice. Just don't come back with derisory offers. ...and I wonder where news of this loan big leaked from? Try and unsettle him a bit more why don't ya! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Tell them the priced just doubled... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Yes, but you pays your money and you takes your chances. Nobody is begging Sevilla to take him off our hands, he is still a valuable asset to us. If they don't want to risk £8m on him then don't, their choice. Just don't come back with derisory offers. ...and I wonder where news of this loan big leaked from? Try and unsettle him a bit more why don't ya! Not sure they need to unsettle him as he was already on the transfer list at his own request . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I think the club should leave this until the last day of the Window. If no bids come in for him and he still wants to join Seville after all this nonsense then let him leave for a year (if they still want him that is). Not point keeping a player for another season if he badly wants to be somewhere else. On the other hand if nobody comes in for him and he is prepared to stay rather than join Seville that could work out well for both the player and the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) So much for wyness saying we expected at least 10 outgoings to raise some cash this summer - most of our players are not exactly wanted elsewhere. “There is a lot of tidying up and we have got to cut back. I would think there could be up to ten players going out this summer, which is probably right,” he said. “Steve has three or four targets that he wants and I can do that from the disposals of the players. We already have plans and are in discussions. “There are a number of players on loan who we know the clubs want that we can sell and at the same time adhere to financial fair play rules, which are there, and very clear for us.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/05/18/aston-villa-plan-10-man-summer-clear-out-raise-25m-steve-bruce/ Edited July 11, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, TreeVillan said: Tell them the priced just doubled... Also sounds like @Vive_La_Villa love life... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Why would you come back in for him on loan if you have concerns about his injury/medical ? Trying to hussle us Because a loan is low risk and short term. If he breaks down with an injury resulting from whatever it was they found then a loan means they can send him back and they've wasted minimal money on him. If they spent £8m on him and the same happened then they've wasted loads of transfer fee, and they're stuck with his wages on their books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Rob182 said: I don't think Dr X has come across as an owner who will buckle at the first sight of an offer that's below what we reasonably expect to get. Amavi could be loaned out and save us another season of wages, but it's much more likely that we'll sell him for a fee, as that's going to be much better for us financially - plus the fact that he's obviously been chosen by Bruce as a player that we can do without. I hope you're right. I was merely guessing at why Sevilla have come back with a loan offer. If we can sell him rather than loan him then I completely agree it's the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Because a loan is low risk and short term. If he breaks down with an injury resulting from whatever it was they found then a loan means they can send him back and they've wasted minimal money on him. If they spent £8m on him and the same happened then they've wasted loads of transfer fee, and they're stuck with his wages on their books. Your comments are logical, however Sevilla's actions are unethical. They come across as a bunch of smart arses......They reserve the right to do what they have done......and we reserve the right to tell them to P ...off. There are some people you want to do business with and others you can gain pleasure of saying we don't. ps There are occasions when your heart can rule your head.....and if I was Dr T i would have great pleasure in saying its my heart. Seville you can go and do one. Edited July 11, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Maybe we should agree to whatever deal they are proposing....... Then send them Micha Richards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2017 On 15/04/2017 at 18:46, AntrimBlack said: I think like a lot of our players in recent years, he will become a much better player when he goes somewhere else. Agreed. He was awful today though. Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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