villan-scott Posted June 6, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2015 It's a sorry state of affairs that we will miss Cleverley with his 3 goals and 0 assists, when comparing that to Milner in his final season with us (in the Liverpool thread), when he got 12 goals and 15 assists apparently. Worlds apart. Imagine having a midfielder capable of that now. I agree with the rebuild but Sherwood has a huge job on his hands, and keeping Cleverley would have been a bonus. It was quite clear it was never to be, and we were facing a losing battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincenzo Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 He put in a few good performances towards the end of the season but he is lightweight imo. There are plenty of decent midfielders about as good as him. No loss imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm disappointed he chose to leave, but I'm more disappointed that Sherwood couldn't convince him to stay. I guess he loves Martinez more. We've lost better players before and survived, and hopeful we'll continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 So he should've just pointlessly delayed signing for them for fear of offending the the more sensitive Villa fans? He was never our player, he agreed to join us on loan. I agree he was never our player but after apparently talking about how he wanted to stay and saying how much he loved the club he can't sign for Everton quick enough. Its not a matter of sensitivity but it is a matter of disrespect IMO. If he never wanted to stay he could have spared us the BS. And his loan was with an option for us to buy in January. OK based on his form at the time he was not worth signing at that time but it was more than just a normal loan like we had for say Walker a few years back. I'm not losing any sleep over this but I'm just a bit disappointed that all. The challenge for TS is to replace him hopefully with some one better as we have the core of a decent midfield with Delph and Westwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm disappointed he chose to leave, but I'm more disappointed that Sherwood couldn't convince him to stay. I guess he loves Martinez more. We've lost better players before and survived, and hopeful we'll continue to do so. Tim Sherwood should not be criticised for this, he got form out of Cleverley that was beyond Lambert and David Moyes last season. I just think it was a case of a North West club coming in for him. If he'd signed for us full time he'd have had to move down to Brum and maybe with a young family he just didn't fancy uprooting them. Everton are on his doorstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I am told me he is an Abba fan and his favourite tune is 'Money, Money, Money' I work all night, I work all day, to pay the bills I have to pay Ain't it sad And still there never seems to be a single penny left for me That's too bad In my dreams I have a plan If I got me a wealthy man I wouldn't have to work at all, I'd fool around and have a ball... Money, money, money Must be funny In the rich man's world Money, money, money Always sunny In the rich man's world Aha-ahaaa All the things I could do If I had a little money It's a rich man's world A man like that is hard to find but I can't get him off my mind Ain't it sad And if he happens to be free I bet he wouldn't fancy me That's too bad So I must leave, I'll have to go To Las Vegas or Monaco And win a fortune in a game, my life will never be the same... Money, money, money Must be funny In the rich man's world Money, money, money Always sunny In the rich man's world Aha-ahaaa All the things I could do If I had a little money It's a rich man's world Money, money, money Must be funny In the rich man's world Money, money, money Always sunny In the rich man's world Aha-ahaaa All the things I could do If I had a little money It's a rich man's world It's a rich man's world 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I just hope we have the funds available to buy whomever it is that Sherwood wants already, as well as now a player to replace Cleverley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 6, 2015 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2015 Mind you they are offering him 50k a week which is **** madness he is no way worth those kind of wages and glad we let him go if that is what he wanted lets not forget for the majority of this season he had been shite to the point where one game he got boo'd off. Where's that reported? If they've got him for that it's a bargain. United wanted £8m for him last summer, I think that's two much, but I could see someone paying £5m which considering they've got him on a free means it's the equivalent of getting him for £30k a week over five years. That's less than Albrighton's getting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I think we'll hear about the FA Cup final loss for a few years more, and how things would have been a lot different had we won the game etc. I was just getting over how Phil Dowd cost us the Carling Cup 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 i dont think it would of even mattered if we finished in the top half of the table and won the fa cup, cleverley would of still gone to everton, he could of stayed at manutd this season, done nothing and got paid for it, but instead he used villa to keep his fitness up, makes sense, even on the 11th hour when everton came on, he went there first, he had no intentions of coming here long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Booooo! Just to get it out the way early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I actually dislike Tom Cleverly more than I did before we got him. Not even an acknowledgement of gratitude for his time at Villa, which for the most part was utter cack until Sir Tim came along. He's just like the rest of them and I'm glad hes no longer on our team. Sort of feel the same way myself. Six days after the FA Cup Final he's gone......Disrespectful IMO. I'm not going to dislike a player because he puts his career ahead of the feeling of a handful of fans. He's decided to join a slightly less shit team closer to home! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I agree he was never our player but after apparently talking about how he wanted to stay and saying how much he loved the club he can't sign for Everton quick enough. Its not a matter of sensitivity but it is a matter of disrespect IMO. If he never wanted to stay he could have spared us the BS. And his loan was with an option for us to buy in January. OK based on his form at the time he was not worth signing at that time but it was more than just a normal loan like we had for say Walker a few years back. I'm not losing any sleep over this but I'm just a bit disappointed that all. The challenge for TS is to replace him hopefully with some one better as we have the core of a decent midfield with Delph and Westwood I too presumed he'd be staying after his comments but reading them back there was nothing conclusive about them, certainly not on par with Downing's. He said he's happy and likes playing for the club - which may well have been true - and if a contract is offered, "we'll see what happens". You're right that there was the option to make the transfer permanent but that just meant we had an effective first option, the player could still have rejected a permanent move had we met the agreed amount. It's likely that United would've insisted on such an option too given his contract situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flashingqwerty Posted June 6, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2015 mediocre player whom i have never rated. put in 4 or 5 good performances in his career to date - Gabby and NZog have had more games for us that he has and i think they are both poor. I'd expect a better player to be coming in. I consider Gary Gardner on a par with Cleverly, so i really don't care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 McCarthy is unhappy apparently........we should put a bid in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 What was the reason that he didn't actually go to Everton before we got him on loan? I mean he was dead set on going there until he had to use us as a back up. If a club did that to me I'd tell them where to stick it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Clouds and silver linings spring to mind here. I think it might be a blessing in disguise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) funny how Martinez was arrogant enough to hang onto get him on a free then again it sounded as though we could have paid to get his signature if we had wanted to, but rightly chose to wait. the issue is we are likely to lose Benteke, Cleverly and Vlaar Most of our experience and quality is leaving the club. Edited June 6, 2015 by VillanousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybread Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 What was the reason that he didn't actually go to Everton before we got him on loan? I mean he was dead set on going there until he had to use us as a back up. If a club did that to me I'd tell them where to stick it. You offered 7m which we accepted but Tom wanted to go to Everton who offered 5m but we rejected that. We then wouldn't let him go to Everton on loan either so he went to you. Everton wouldn't match your offer so we didn't let him go to Everton. I think we've got a bit of a sour relationship with Everton over the whole Moyes and Fellaini stuff so we weren't willing to give Everton a little deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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