kurtsimonw Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: To be fair to him, he had absolutely no help from Ayew and Hunt was bombing on all game. When he wasn't 1v2/3 today he didn't have any issues defensively. When he has a LM playing LM in front of him rather than a forward, he links up better. How strange. But he is Ally Cissokho, so must be criticised for everything. Edited August 7, 2016 by kurtsimonw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 6 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Yes for a reason. I thought he was really poor. Right, just not a very good reason. I'm not saying you are making this argument, but I've seen it before on here and it annoys me: an argument along the lines of 'Ayew/Traore/Grealish might not pass the ball but that's because everybody else is shit'. You have to pass the ball in football. It's a team game. Even if Cissokho is shit, Ayew should still have passed him the ball during one of his overlaps. Why? Because if Ayew passes it, then the next time the full back has to consider the possibility that Ayew might take him on, or that he might pass it, and that creates an element of doubt. Instead, it's just obvious that Ayew's going to keep it because he's a very selfish player, so the full back can safely ignore the runner and just stand up to Ayew, which their defenders did really easily all game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 i thought aly was good defensively...but absymal in an attacking sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 8, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 8, 2016 Disagree I thought he was poor defensively as well, he got a right balling at from the skipper st one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MellbergsBeard Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 He wasn't terrible, he just looks confused and his body language always seems a bit wierd to me, a bit like he doesn't want to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 8, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2016 The biggest problem i have with him is his buck handing when going forward. So often ive seen quick attacks break down as he plain refuses to take the innitive when on the ball. Its painfull to watch this proffesional player run 20 yards, stop dead and wait for a player to come within 10 yards to pass it to, stopping any counter attack stone dead. He simply can not play the full back role that we need when we are to be on the front foot this season! God help us if Amavi doesnt play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Everytime we defend a corner he tries to wrestle his man to the ground. Always looks like he's going to concede a penalty. Can't wait for Amavi to come back. Our full backs are so incompetent on the ball along with Gestede. They ruin any momentum attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Lord Willard said: Everytime we defend a corner he tries to wrestle his man to the ground. Always looks like he's going to concede a penalty. Can't wait for Amavi to come back. Our full backs are so incompetent on the ball along with Gestede. They ruin any momentum attacking. Can you delete this post incase any referees are reading it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Sherwood (C unit) loaned him out leaving us with Amavi, who then got injured leaving us with Richardson Now RDM sells Bennet leaving us with Cissokho till Amivi is fit again. The Irony of getting rid of shit only to have more shit even shitier than the shit we just got rid of still at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Grasshopper said: Sherwood (C unit) loaned him out leaving us with Amavi, who then got injured leaving us with Richardson Now RDM sells Bennet leaving us with Cissokho till Amivi is fit again. The Irony of getting rid of shit only to have more shit even shitier than the shit we just got rid of still at the club. Maybe we should sell Cissokho and use the proceeds (along with anything we get for Bennett) to find a better LB? I know it is not a priority but if Amavi were to get injured again we would be relying on Cissokho again for a large part of the season which scares the bejesus outta me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Grasshopper said: Sherwood (C unit) loaned him out leaving us with Amavi, who then got injured leaving us with Richardson Now RDM sells Bennet leaving us with Cissokho till Amivi is fit again. The Irony of getting rid of shit only to have more shit even shitier than the shit we just got rid of still at the club. True, at least Sherwood saw that Cissokho was an appalling player... but it just happened that Richardson was equally bad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Gary Thomas said: Maybe we should sell Cissokho and use the proceeds (along with anything we get for Bennett) to find a better LB? I know it is not a priority but if Amavi were to get injured again we would be relying on Cissokho again for a large part of the season which scares the bejesus outta me. Rico Henry at Walsall. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Whilst we have players like him playing for us ......there are no corners being turned. thats not a criticism of the manager, because i think he has it all weighed up. It will take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Anyone else notice he had a really tidy game today? Got an assist too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 That long shot tho ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 14, 2016 33 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Anyone else notice he had a really tidy game today? Got an assist too. Yes i did.... few others that will struggle to admit it. People put themselves in a corner when they viciously slag off a player. Nearly all our players aren't as bad as they appear. Total lack of confidence will destroy any player. Unfortunately we have a squad full of them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I thought he was a bit subpar defensively against Wednesday but his crossing so far this season has been much improved. This will be useful as long as Gestede plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 On 9 August 2016 at 11:42, Grasshopper said: Sherwood (C unit) loaned him out leaving us with Amavi, who then got injured leaving us with Richardson Now RDM sells Bennet leaving us with Cissokho till Amivi is fit again. The Irony of getting rid of shit only to have more shit even shitier than the shit we just got rid of still at the club. Amavi can't be far off being fit, managed 90 mins against Luton for what it was worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 14, 2016 Had one of his best games yesterday but still not good enough for what we want this season. We need our full backs to push on and be far more offensive as we will have a lot more of the ball...unfortunately Cissokho will never be that player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 22 minutes ago, Nigel said: Had one of his best games yesterday but still not good enough for what we want this season. We need our full backs to push on and be far more offensive as we will have a lot more of the ball...unfortunately Cissokho will never be that player! Whilst one swallow doesn't make a summer that he is what he did yesterday to be fair. Aly's problem for me is fitness, against Rotherham he will do a job but in a higher tempo game and people running at him he just doesn't have the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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