Baldricks Cunning Plan Posted September 3, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) I understand the points made about Mendes representing both managers and the player but the club has to be happy with the fee. On the basis that the owners of Wolves have a stake in the Gestifute agency of Mendes, do you think that they would be happy if assets were taken from their club so that their business partner can do a favour to another client. I don't think so and their share of the agents fee would not be higher than an increased transfer value. If Jack Grealish is sold who would have the final say over the fee, the agent or the selling club? I agree about the sentiment about football in general being less than clean at the moment and it seems that all clubs are happy to bend the rules whether it be by selling grounds ground to balance FFP Calcualtions or having close ties to agents. At the end of the day though Mendes doesn't own Spurs, Wolves, Porto or anyone else to be able to fix transfer fees. As mentioned in an earlier post, Doherty isn't a good full back but was certainly valuable to us in the specific role in the system that we play. We've got rid of him when his value will be at the highest that it will ever be even if most people think that it looks low. I'll be the first to hold my hand up in the air in saying that I was wrong if Doherty succeeds at Spurs but in my opinion he'll end up with just a bit player role for them. Edited September 3, 2020 by Baldricks Cunning Plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 3, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Andy81 said: I don't see what can be practically done here though, do you propose that a player cannot be sold to a club where the agent represents the buying club's manager as well as the player? The alternative is maybe a fourth party steps in I guess. Having a think about it, the phrasing is perhaps awry. I mean the/an agent works for a Player (or Manager, or club). So firstly, it's not that "a player cannot be sold to ..." more that an agent (or agency) cannot (should not) represent more than one party in a deal. So yeah, the club should not use the same agent as the player in a deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 3, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 hours ago, blandy said: Having a think about it, the phrasing is perhaps awry. I mean the/an agent works for a Player (or Manager, or club). So firstly, it's not that "a player cannot be sold to ..." more that an agent (or agency) cannot (should not) represent more than one party in a deal. So yeah, the club should not use the same agent as the player in a deal. I don’t think agents or agencies should be allowed to represent players and managers. That would be a simple solution. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: I don’t think agents or agencies should be allowed to represent players and managers. That would be a simple solution. That was my thought too. One or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Signing Fabio Silva from Porto for £40m apparently. He's highly rated in Portugal (and is insane on Football Manager), but has played less than 800 minutes of senior football and scored 3 goals, seems a massive risk to me for a player that will likely be a back up at best (for now), especially when they have other gaps to fill in their squad too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy81 Posted September 5, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 5, 2020 We need more goals, especially after losing Doherty so I'm pleased. Porto fans when we went to Braga were raving about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Football manager legend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Incredible. So wolves are now the #1 place for Mendes' young bucks. Makes sense with the amount of eyes on the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Would love to know how much Porto is gonna receive in this deal vs Mendes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Confirmed Great signing tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 So they're signing 18 year old wonderkids for £35 million and we're struggling to convince Wilson to join, **** hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I never heard of him until today but he has only ever started 1 league game for Porto and has a record of 1 goal in all his 15 career appearances so far. Porto top scorer had 12 goals last season and the 2nd top scorer was a left back so surely he should have got more game time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Trying to think of a parallel of such a big fee for someone who has played so little first team football. Cant think of anything remotely in this ball park. It’s an astonishing fee. No idea what to make of it. He’s either the next Messi or it’s another one of those deals more in Mendes’ interest than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Lol gaming the system to the max. Fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, villaglint said: He’s either the next Messi or it’s another one of those deals more in Mendes’ interest than anyone else. It's definitely the latter. Won't be the former but he's meant to be absolutely fantastic. It'll be another big win for Football Manager's database if he's any good. Apparently he's the most recent superstar in the game. They were ahead of many with Haaland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Zatman said: I never heard of him until today but he has only ever started 1 league game for Porto and has a record of 1 goal in all his 15 career appearances so far. Porto top scorer had 12 goals last season and the 2nd top scorer was a left back so surely he should have got more game time Yeah I watched a fair bit of Porto on Freesports after lockdown and can't recall seeing this guy play, was always Moussa Marega upfront with someone else. Likes of Neves and Diogo Jota had more top level experience when they went to Wolves. They signed Cutrone who'd been a regular in Serie A for a few years and he couldn't settle and went back after six months. Rafa Mir was also a higly rated young Spanish striker they signed midway through their promotion season and he's been loaned out since. Guess as long as Jimenez stays fit it's not a issue, he can be eased into premier league with sub games but huge amount to be spending on someone with little top level experience. When we signed Adama at 18 you could see how raw his overall game was and he'd played a couple of games for Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Always assumed Andre Silva would be off to Wolves at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted September 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Tomaszk said: It'll be another big win for Football Manager's database if he's any good. Apparently he's the most recent superstar in the game. They were ahead of many with Haaland. The volume of scouting and data analysis on youth football nowadays makes this a lot easier for them. If you Google scout report and a random youth player (from a big club or national team) you can usually find something. Plus things like Sofascore, WhoScored, Transfer markt, Index gain (linked to football index) and many more provide data on players. It's how having never actually seen Rodrigo De Paul play I know of him (ideally I would also watch him but rarely have time nowadays) and that he's a very decent target for Leeds. Silva is certainly a prospect on FM but think Esposito at Inter is meant to be more the next big thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Tomaszk said: It'll be another big win for Football Manager's database if he's any good. Apparently he's the most recent superstar in the game. They were ahead of many with Haaland. Esposito at inter Milan is the one for me but yeah I'd say he's this years de ligt / joao felix, it's a big wonderkid signing Best defender on last year's game was Ruben Dias at benfica, guess who he's been linked with... Benfica have a few coming through and a big investment this summer, the national team should be alright for a bit, look out for Trincao, florentino Luis and resende too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I reckon they’ll field an all Portuguese 11 within the next two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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