mykeyb Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Andy81 said: @Jimzk5 Jota wasn't a full International when he joined us. He was someone Altetico Madrid signed that wasn’t good enough for them and was out on loan to Porto, playing under Nuno. The move to Wolves did make sense. Nuno obviously liked him and he wasn’t rated by his parent club. You’re saying a player of his calibre judging by how he seems to us all now, but at the time he was a 20 year old fringe player. Im gutted about this, £45m is a good price, but when it clicks for him he’ll be world class I think. Again, this is the model, happy to trust the club. Are Wolves going to spend big money before the window shuts Andy as Nuno wanted a bigger squad but it's one in and one out at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Ki-Jana Hoever costing up to £13.5m 18yo and untested. Sounds a huge amount of money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Mendes cut for Jota must have been huge. wouldnt be suprised if its 15 mill+. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy81 Posted September 19, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, mykeyb said: Are Wolves going to spend big money before the window shuts Andy as Nuno wanted a bigger squad but it's one in and one out at the moment. We’re four players in and two out at the moment, in terms of first team anyway. Sounds like we will be bringing players in from Nuno’s comments today. Just wait and see now! You're right though, the squad is too small. He’s trying to rebalance it for a new approach. It’ll be an interesting season for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Signing Semedo from Barca for £38m How do they plan on having enough home grown players in their 25 man squad? They cannot possibly have enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted September 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2020 Another Mendes client in through the door. I can’t believe the Premier League are too happy with the relationship if the truth be known! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, StewieGriffin said: Signing Semedo from Barca for £38m How do they plan on having enough home grown players in their 25 man squad? They cannot possibly have enough... Home grown equals 3 years of training in the UK before they're 21 You also don't have to register anyone under the age of 21 That new Portuguese striker for example gets a shirt number but isn't classed as one of the 25 because of his age, when he is 21 he will be classed as home grown Last year neves wasn't named in the 25, this year hoever, neto, vinagre, silva, vintinho all don't have to be named If they don't have enough home grown players then they have to leave a gap Theoretically a team could have 0 home grown players and an unlimited number of U21 players and the rules would be fine with that Edited September 20, 2020 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 To be honest, as good as they are, the way they operate and the model they’re adopting isn’t something I’d be too pleased about if it were Villa. One man is completely controlling their club. It just seems morally bankrupt that he’s making so much money just moving players around when he so pleases. It’s all just soulless. Maybe I’m just jealous but everytime I see they have signed a Portuguese player - Yawn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I think it weakens them, but I'd say it’s an okay fee for Jota. The Mendes stuff is crazy though. Baffles me the PL are fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) On 19/09/2020 at 10:08, penguin said: Strange signing for Liverpool I think, not that I don’t think he’s a quality player. Centre Midfield looks to be the obvious area they need to improve. Why spend £45m on someone to challenge Minamino & Shaqiri to be Mane/Salah’s backup. Centre mid is probably their strongest area. They have Thiago, Henderson, Ox, Fabinho, Milner, Keita and Wijindum. Signing another forward makes sense as the main three played so many times last season. As for wolves fair play, they seem to be getting good players and selling at a good price. The Mendes link up works for them. Edited September 20, 2020 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) Its a strange situation isn't it. It works for Wolves but would I want it at Villa? Not so sure? They've got one British player in their starting line up. Only a handful in the squad. Not sure i'd like that to be honest. Edited September 20, 2020 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Centre mid is probably their strongest area. They have Thiago, Henderson, Ox, Fabinho, Milner, Keita and Wijindum. Signing another forward makes sense as the main three played so many times last season. As for wolves fair play, they seem to be getting good players and selling at a good price. The Mendes link up works for them. Thiago was an excellent signing, didn’t realise that was confirmed before my post. Before him I’d say it was pretty ordinary, in comparison to elite European club bracket they are in. Most of their play seemed to revolve around bypassing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Xela said: 9 hours ago, StewieGriffin said: Signing Semedo from Barca for £38m How do they plan on having enough home grown players in their 25 man squad? They cannot possibly have enough... Its a strange situation isn't it. It works for Wolves but would I want it at Villa? Not so sure? They've got one British player in their starting line up. Only a handful in the squad. Not sure i'd like that to be honest. I am pretty sure the Portuguese guys are a lot better at speaking English than Coady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: To be honest, as good as they are, the way they operate and the model they’re adopting isn’t something I’d be too pleased about if it were Villa. One man is completely controlling their club. It just seems morally bankrupt that he’s making so much money just moving players around when he so pleases. It’s all just soulless. Maybe I’m just jealous but everytime I see they have signed a Portuguese player - Yawn. on one hand it does seem that there's a single point of failure in mendez. he goes, their whole model falls apart. but i cant help but confess that i'd love it if players like semedo were signing for villa. that's the calibre of player we can only dream of signing. hopefully when we get to that stage, it will be based on our reputation, and not just some relationship with a super agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: To be honest, as good as they are, the way they operate and the model they’re adopting isn’t something I’d be too pleased about if it were Villa. One man is completely controlling their club. It just seems morally bankrupt that he’s making so much money just moving players around when he so pleases. It’s all just soulless. Maybe I’m just jealous but everytime I see they have signed a Portuguese player - Yawn. Agree. Furthermore, I would be on pins and needles having owners from the People's Republic of China these days. At anytime the Chinese Communist Party could order them to sell the club or block cash-flow out of China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: Agree. Furthermore, I would be on pins and needles having owners from the People's Republic of China these days. At anytime the Chinese Communist Party could order them to sell the club or block cash-flow out of China. With Mendes I don't think it would matter that much. They'd just be loaned the players or bring in the stupid low fees again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, villa4europe said: Home grown equals 3 years of training in the UK before they're 21 You also don't have to register anyone under the age of 21 That new Portuguese striker for example gets a shirt number but isn't classed as one of the 25 because of his age, when he is 21 he will be classed as home grown Last year neves wasn't named in the 25, this year hoever, neto, vinagre, silva, vintinho all don't have to be named If they don't have enough home grown players then they have to leave a gap Theoretically a team could have 0 home grown players and an unlimited number of U21 players and the rules would be fine with that Imagine thats why they signed sarkic probably classed as homegrown talent Edited September 21, 2020 by gwi1890 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 17 hours ago, villa4europe said: That new Portuguese striker for example gets a shirt number but isn't classed as one of the 25 because of his age, when he is 21 he will be classed as home grown Surely he'd have to be at the club on his 18th birthday for this to be the case, so he'll miss it by a matter of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: Surely he'd have to be at the club on his 18th birthday for this to be the case, so he'll miss it by a matter of months. They dont use his birthday as the rule, they use Jan 1st that season, based on the season he turns 21, seasons officially starts 1st July So he will be classed as under 21 for the 23/24 season, in Jan 2024 he will be classed as home grown and then 24/25 he can be registered as one of the 8 I think anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, villa4europe said: They dont use his birthday as the rule, they use Jan 1st that season, based on the season he turns 21, seasons officially starts 1st July So he will be classed as under 21 for the 23/24 season, in Jan 2024 he will be classed as home grown and then 24/25 he can be registered as one of the 8 I think anyway Fair enough, that makes sense. Puts it's somewhat in line with what they do for U21 national teams qualifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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