TheAuthority Posted May 20, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Good interview with Jack today in the Mirror I think. Sounds like he's in a good place mentally to kick on now. Linky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 20, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: Linky? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 These early Adam Johnson comments and 14 year olds are quite spooky considering what would happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jackbauer24 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 This is not me on the wind up but Grealish is seen as our stand out star... so would you swap him for Sessegnon if you could tomorrow? Forgetting the whole 'one of our own' thing, is Sessegnon both better now and have more potential? I do worry that this final is going to be decided by the wrong young star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Different types of players. From what I have seen Sessegnon has better pace, faster reactions and will get more goals. Grealish has better technique, is more creative and is better running with the ball and threading passes through. Have a horrible feeling Sessegnon will score - he doesn't even need to be playing well or be involved and he seems to pop up and score. Big pressure on him though and we know Jack can perform at Wembley in the big matches. Let's see! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 not comparing the 2 players but what i anticipate to be their careers, sessegnon will get a big move first, i think both players are in danger of getting a bad move where they arent played in their favoured role, arent centered around and more than likely dont live up the hype of their fee, sessegnon being used in the ashley young role jumps out at me straight away, i think jack has a rarer ability and skill set i would have thought the pre match build up would be more one vs the other with the hopeful outcome that jack has seen and done it before whereas sessegnon would start to crack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Jack's the type of player who will be great to build a team around, he's got the guile and technique to take him well into his 30s. Sessengnon is pace and power - Like Lennon, Gabby, Owen etc before him as soon as he loses that pace and power to get into the positions to "pop up and score", he'll be useless. One will be great well into his 30s, the other will likely be burnt out by 30 - I know which player I'd place in each of those categories. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I think sess is the better player atm but there are plenty of players like him. Grealish on the other hand seems to be one of a kind the way he dribbles through players like they aren't there. I'd take grealish just to see what he turns into. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 hard to judge without knowing Sessegnons age. Havent heard it mentioned... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Haven't seen enough of Sessegnon to judge him but Grealish is destined for great things. Put him in a Man City team and he would flourish. In an ideal world we would get promoted this year, get a proper manager in and then build a good, passing team around him. Fro a veriety of reasons I think we will struggle to hold on to Jack in the long term. Enjoy him while he's here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Wouldnt swap him for anyone. He's Villa. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, TheMelvillan said: hard to judge without knowing Sessegnons age. Havent heard it mentioned... He is 18 now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos_the_third Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) From what I’ve seen of Sessegnon (admittedly a relatively limited amount) he doesn’t really seem to influence games as much as Jack, but has a great knack of knowing where the ball will fall for an easy finish. He’s also very good at interplay around the box, and this has only been improved by having Mitrovic in the team, who pins the centre half and acts as a pivot for him to pass to and run off. He isn’t very strong though (hardly a crime at the age of twelve), and Tuanzebe bullied him in the away match to the extent he refused to go near him after a strong challenge two minutes in (albeit he did score!). Jack is a more complete player currently, and certainly far, far better for us in our current state. Sessegnon would be wasted in our team as we don’t play a style that’d suit him - however, Jack drives everything that we do (whether that be from driving runs in open play to making slide tackles to winning free kicks), and the fact we are where we are despite our two wingers being on a bit of a lean patch offensively is massively down to him. To top it all off, he’s a fan and you can really tell how much it means to him. In conclusion - Sessegnon has amazing stats for a teenager and has a great start on the way to becoming a really good player, but right now I wouldn’t swap Jack for anyone in this division (or for the majority of players in the division above) Edited May 22, 2018 by Carlos_the_third 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Brumstopdogs said: He is 18 now How tall is he though? I've heard he's only 3ft2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: How tall is he though? I've heard he's only 3ft2 He's only been measured in hands to date I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, villa89 said: Haven't seen enough of Sessegnon to judge him but Grealish is destined for great things. Put him in a Man City team and he would flourish. In an ideal world we would get promoted this year, get a proper manager in and then build a good, passing team around him. Fro a veriety of reasons I think we will struggle to hold on to Jack in the long term. Enjoy him while he's here. Get a proper manager in? Wouldn't you say grealish playing his best we've seen him since Bruce has came in? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Carlos_the_third said: From what I’ve seen of Sessegnon (admittedly a relatively limited amount) he doesn’t really seem to influence games as much as Jack, but has a great knack of knowing where the ball will fall for an easy finish. He’s also very good at interplay around the box, and this has only been improved by having Mitrovic in the team, who pins the centre half and acts as a pivot for him to pass to and run off. He isn’t very strong though (hardly a crime at the age of twelve), and Tuanzebe bullied him in the away match to the extent he refused to go near him after a strong challenge two minutes in (albeit he did score!). Jack is a more complete player currently, and certainly far, far better for us in our current state. Sessegnon would be wasted in our team as we don’t play a style that’d suit him - however, Jack drives everything that we do (whether that be from driving runs in open play to making slide tackles to winning free kicks), and the fact we are where we are despite our two wingers being on a bit of a lean patch offensively is massively down to him. To top it all off, he’s a fan and you can really tell how much it means to him. In conclusion - Sessegnon has amazing stats for a teenager and has a great start on the way to becoming a really good player, but right now I wouldn’t swap Jack for anyone in this division (or for the majority of players in the division above) There is also a chance that Sessegnon is crap next season and never tops this year. We've seen it many times. Jack has done it for years now, including on the big stage and has just got better and better. I have no doubt whatsoever he will improve more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, sidcow said: There is also a chance that Sessegnon is crap next season and never tops this year. We've seen it many times. Jack has done it for years now, including on the big stage and has just got better and better. I have no doubt whatsoever he will improve more. I wouldn't go as far as saying Jack has done it for years, he has been pretty inconsistent ever since the Semi Final at Wembley. However there are reason's for it, injuries, poor squads, changes of managers, various positions. Agreed though this season he has got better and better and could become a massive player for this club... if we go up... Edited May 22, 2018 by wilko154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Jacks work rate at the riverside was impressive especially dropping deep in midfield. He needs to work like that again like all of em do when we dont have the ball . Fulham can get a bit flustered when they arent allowed to knock it about on their terms, thier pace. Their passing game will only be as good as we let it be. That, we are in control of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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