Xela Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Really? You sure you're not getting a bad cold 3 times a year? The average adult gets the flu twice a decade. I think I've just had flu... or a very bad cold. Pretty much bed bound for 2 days at its worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2018 This flu/only a cold argument rather pisses me off. As if there are only two possibilities - full blown influenza (which, yes, is a serious thing) OR a slight sniffle. When actually there is a whole family of ever-mutating viruses, which vary in severity from the mildly inconvenient to the potentially life-threatening. It's a spectrum, and you can be properly ill while still being short of 'actual flu'. I blame women and their snide 'man flu' digs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 54 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Really? You sure you're not getting a bad cold 3 times a year? The average adult gets the flu twice a decade. Yes, Man flu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyShears Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Interesting discussion. What are people's views on immunisations? I mean like MMR etc. Just thinking about anti-vaxxers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 @Demitri_C flu is a real bastard. You sweat profusely, you shit yourself, you hallucinate, your body shuts down and you feel hot and cold at the same time...to name but a few symptoms. A cold is a blocked nose and sore throat, with a lot sneezing and coughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I very rarely get AIDs but I'd still accept a free vaccine if it was given to me. It takes like 30 seconds and will stop you getting the flu on the off chance you do actually get it. it was suggested 50,000 "extra" deaths came about this year as a result of the flu jab being ineffective now they might have died anyway but then again they might not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, mjmooney said: This flu/only a cold argument rather pisses me off. As if there are only two possibilities - full blown influenza (which, yes, is a serious thing) OR a slight sniffle. When actually there is a whole family of ever-mutating viruses, which vary in severity from the mildly inconvenient to the potentially life-threatening. It's a spectrum, and you can be properly ill while still being short of 'actual flu'. I blame women and their snide 'man flu' digs. on similar vein for me is Migraines amount of people ( and lets be honest it's women) posting on facebook that they have a migraine No you don't because if you had a migraine you would have blurred or no vision , tingling in your arms , be vomiting , shaking sweating and in so much pain that killing yourself would seem like a far better alternative to posting on Facebook the sending you Hugs comments from friends are no better either .. they don't need your sympathy they need a weblink to migraine symptoms on The Lancet webpage 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: What the hell is the difference ?!! You're in bed with a cold or a flu and 50 pounds is left next to your bed. If you have a cold you will pick it up. If you have flu then you will not care and will leave it. Edited December 11, 2018 by RunRickyRun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) Flu kills people, that’s the difference. Edited December 11, 2018 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: it was suggested 50,000 "extra" deaths came about this year as a result of the flu jab being ineffective now they might have died anyway but then again they might not Who by the Mail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted December 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: on similar vein for me is Migraines amount of people ( and lets be honest it's women) posting on facebook that they have a migraine No you don't because if you had a migraine you would have blurred or no vision , tingling in your arms , be vomiting , shaking sweating and in so much pain that killing yourself would seem like a far better alternative to posting on Facebook the sending you Hugs comments from friends are no better either .. they don't need your sympathy they need a weblink to migraine symptoms on The Lancet webpage As someone who suffers from migraines (silent and full ones) on a reasonably regular basis, I wish I could like this post a few more times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted December 11, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, BillyShears said: Interesting discussion. What are people's views on immunisations? I mean like MMR etc. Just thinking about anti-vaxxers Anti-vaxxers are **** morons. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted December 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Chindie said: Anti-vaxxers are **** morons. &¤%#/¤& We almost completely wiped out the measles in this part of the world and now, lo and behold, it's back thanks to these nutters. They then infect infants at hospitals when seeking help (yeah, now you want help), who are too young to get the protecting jab, it's a lethal decease ffs. words removed words removed words removed words removed words removed words removed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Designer1 said: As someone who suffers from migraines (silent and full ones) on a reasonably regular basis, I wish I could like this post a few more times. Definitely, I get them and my body just shuts down. Luckily I've found some decent medication that snuffs them out completely if I take it early enough, but yeah it is annoying when someone is working and goes on about having a migraine when it's just a headache. It makes it feel like I get judged as being a pansy for going home when I get an attack. Luckily never had flu and haven't had a cold for a couple of years at least. I think if this winter stays as mild as it is at the moment I'll get one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Xela said: I think I've just had flu... or a very bad cold. Pretty much bed bound for 2 days at its worst. I've had running nose blocked nose coughing and weak all at once but never to the extent of being unable to get out if bed (touch wood) Surely that's still the flu then? I mean instead if the expression of a cold there are different types of flu, mild flu and severe flu? Just like a cough and a chest infection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Demitri_C said: What's everyone's opinion on the flu jab? My work are really pushing us to get it done but I don't want it. Touch wood I rarely get flu so why do I need to get this bloody thing if I have don't have to? Leaving aside the whether you want to or not aspect for a moment (As others have said it's your choice - do what you want) The answer to this highlighted bit is the herd. Whether or not you fall ill to the virus you could still transmit that virus for one, but in order for us all to be protected a certain amount of the population is vaccinated. The obvious benefit for/to people on the front line of dealing with the sick/elderly/young is there but the thinking behind immunisation is to protect the herd as a whole. Flu doesn't have a particularly high reproduction rate compared to other things like measles/rubella etc so the amount of the population that need to be immunised for the critical rate to be reached is lower. The Herd Immunity Threshold. For Flu its less than 50% of the population. The NHS will have targets (and maybe offering free jabs to all it's office staff as well as the front line staff may help them hit those targets, I couldn't possibly comment) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity Quote Some people are literally unable to fight off certain infections. Some most at need of the vaccine would not be able to fight it off. So basically, we do it for them. Altruistically almost. The strong protecting the weak. Like a wall of the uninfectable around those unable to fight off the things themselves....And indeed the "free riders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 11, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Do you get shots for rabies as well just in case? Yes I do. The point is, Dem, what's the negative here? I presume these are being offered at your workplace. For free. What's the downside to receiving it? You don't have to pay anything. You don't have to go anywhere. It takes like 30 seconds. It makes no difference to your life except that it MIGHT stop you getting an unpleasant illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted December 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2018 56 minutes ago, RunRickyRun said: You're in bed with a cold or a flu and 50 pounds is left next to your bed. If you have a cold you will pick it up. If you have flu then you will not care and will leave it. Was just about to post exactly this. Once you’ve properly had the flu, you never have to ask what the difference is between a cold and the flu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Don’t think I’ve ever had the flu or a migraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said: Who by the Mail? I believe it was the Independent but google is your friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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