nick76 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, MaVilla said: cheeky Van de Beek bid in Jan anyone?! Why? Very expensive wages, likely high loan fee and yet very similar to what we have already and yet no better in quality. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 1, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2021 I genuinely don't really know what we need at this point. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 We could arguably do with a back up GK, but it can wait til the summer. Given how Luiz is performing we don't need the DM a lot of us (me included) were hoping for. We should keep our powder dry and resign Doug if we can. We may not need much business next summer either, assuming no major outgoings, but it will depend a bit if we're in Europe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, PieFacE said: I genuinely don't really know what we need at this point. IMHO no one maybe on 1st jan if we're sat 6th right in the middle of everything, maybe have some injuries, then we try and get a ligard esque exciting signing to come in and push us over the line if we're sat 10th in no mans land then we can try and generate a similar buzz using our own youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I think we'll go back in for Ward Prowse next summer. Get the feeling Luiz won't sign a new deal and will fancy going back to play in another euro league so he'd be obvious replacement and Southampton could make it easier by getting relegated. I assume there will be some sort of get out clause in the deal he signed a few weeks back. Wonder if we can make the Axel loan permanent in January? Can see us doing that if there is an option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 A lot could change between now and January, a couple of bad results and people will be declaring that this and that player isn't good enough, or some other player needs a loan. There's also the possibility of injuries, a couple of seasons back we lost Heaton, McGInn, and Wesley in a short space of time and had to replace them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I think we'll go back in for Ward Prowse next summer. Get the feeling Luiz won't sign a new deal and will fancy going back to play in another euro league so he'd be obvious replacement and Southampton could make it easier by getting relegated. I assume there will be some sort of get out clause in the deal he signed a few weeks back. Wonder if we can make the Axel loan permanent in January? Can see us doing that if there is an option. This is my gut feeling too. The Douglas Luiz to Roma rumours don't seem to be going away, and his contract is running down to one year left next summer will make him more afordable to Roma and other suitors. JWP has the same agent as as Grealish, so it wouldn't surprise me if there is a confidential buy out clause inserted, that we know about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I don’t believe we’ll do any permanent deals in January. Only an injury crisis or surprise departures may change that. However, next summer an improved back up keeper is a must and a potential young challenger to Targett would be good, ie Aaron Hickey or Lee Buchanan perhaps? New deals for Luiz and Hause or replace if they decide to move on. Axel coming in permanently would also be good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Backup keeper Young Left Back Defensive midfielder Would be my priorities over next 2 windows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Backup keeper is one of those positions you think you can get away with not having - until you need them. I have no doubt Steer would do a good job if needed for the odd game. If we lost Martinez for months, we'd definitely know about it. It would cost us points. Possibly several league positions. Also, who is backup to Steer? Children. It needs sorting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, useless said: A lot could change between now and January, a couple of bad results and people will be declaring that this and that player isn't good enough, or some other player needs a loan. There's also the possibility of injuries, a couple of seasons back we lost Heaton, McGInn, and Wesley in a short space of time and had to replace them. This is 100% true but its nice even for a couple of weeks to think we could go a window without having to be glued to this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 1, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 hours ago, nick76 said: Why? Very expensive wages, likely high loan fee and yet very similar to what we have already and yet no better in quality. He must’ve been good before Man U bought him? I honestly hadn’t really heard of him I don’t think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 7 hours ago, HalfTimePost said: Young Left Back We already have Young at left back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 hours ago, alreadyexists said: He must’ve been good before Man U bought him? I honestly hadn’t really heard of him I don’t think Yeah he is but our midfielders are as good. I really like him and think the move to Man U was a poor rushed decision for both parties at the time. I just think he’s in the same ball park as our midfielders in terms of quality. I think we have to realise our midfielders are top 8 midfielders individually so it takes real quality to be better than them especially given the financial package it would take to bring in him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 hours ago, PieFacE said: I genuinely don't really know what we need at this point. I need a beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 10 hours ago, VillaChris said: Wonder if we can make the Axel loan permanent in January? Can see us doing that if there is an option. I don't think there is any option to buy included in the loan deal Chris, however I do agree with you that we should speak to them in January about making a permanent deal once the loan ends if they are willing to listen to offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I don't think there is any option to buy included in the loan deal Chris, however I do agree with you that we should speak to them in January about making a permanent deal once the loan ends if they are willing to listen to offers. Well he ain't playing for Man. United anytime soon after they signed Varane so guess we'll come to some sort of 20m odd agreement next summer then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Well he ain't playing for Man. United anytime soon after they signed Varane so guess we'll come to some sort of 20m odd agreement next summer then. i dunno, Chelsea got 28m for Tomori who was also English and basically a fringe player at Chelsea, and i imagine Manure are in the same vein of getting every penny they possibly can for a fringe player (just like Liverpool have a history of mugging off other teams for their fringe players) I wouldnt be against us signing him, but maybe not for the price i reckon they might be asking, such as 25-30m. You just need to look at Lingard, im sure he would have been allowed to leave this summer, but were prob asking 30m+ from Spam who refused to pay it. We will see though, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegzy Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 14 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: I remember their fans being so excited that they got him instead of Grealish, thinking they’d got a much better deal for a younger player, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegzy Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Mazrim said: Backup keeper is one of those positions you think you can get away with not having - until you need them. I have no doubt Steer would do a good job if needed for the odd game. If we lost Martinez for months, we'd definitely know about it. It would cost us points. Possibly several league positions. Also, who is backup to Steer? Children. It needs sorting. I think any backup keeper to Martinez would cost us points though as Martinez is top 10 in the world quality for me and anyone we could get as backup would be a massive downgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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