The Inspiration Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Fans and players player of the season award too I believe Yeah shouldn’t have signed him though, we thought he was shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: So an excerpt of him saying he prefers playing in the "Axial position" of a diamond, and that's where his best form for Lyon came from. Anyone care to explain what the hell the "axial" position is? Is that a striker? When on loan for us he was a centre half or occasionally used by Bruce as a right back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinlessWonder Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: Not according to Chelsea fans.. They reckon nobody works harder than this guy apparently (as per a conversation with a Genuine Chelsea fan at work last night) That's encouraging then. I was going off what that Lyon fan saying that he goes missing after 20 mins. This is definately one that is splitting opinion anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Career averages: 27.5 passes per game, 80.5% completion For comparison, El Ghazi: 17.8 passes per game, 76.8% completion Allen Saint-Maximin: 21.1 passes per game, 76.7% *These statistics are for information purposes only and should not be used out of context. Cheers. Interesting stats, just found it odd that all his highlights don't show any kind of passing ability. I'm not talking your defense splitting 30 yarders, when he goes past a player and comes inside he ignores the overlap and either shoots or loses it. Or when central he gets tied up with 2 or 3 players when a quick ball to an advanced player would have given a goal scoring chance. At least with ollie, there's someone who can keep up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted September 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, villalad21 said: "Lyon fan here. don't get fooled by the video bertrand traore is horrible^^ he is so bad every fan of lyon wants him out. He just do one thing all game cut in on his left foot thinking he is robben. He succed one dribble in 20 and i'm not exaggerating. He has terrible finishing, shamefull right foot and wrost of it he is so nonchalant, he dissappears out of games after 20 minutes he makes me so mad last year." Why are we signing this loser?? Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Was this from the San Francisco resident on the Lyon forum? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2020 Looks to me that for whatever reason things haven't worked out for him at Lyon, and the fans have turned against him - as can easily happen to any player. He needs to leave. John Terry is probably a better judge than the OL fans in those circumstances. As for the fee, well that's inflation for you. TBF we're probably responsible for fuelling that, but hey, we're a rich club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Wasn't good personalities and characters so important for Smith? According to Lyon fans this guy has got attitude problems. Not much of this signing makes sense. Said Benrahma who had 17 goals and 9 assist last season is available and has been all summer. And we choose to pay 19 million for this guy? Watkins was a great start and 2 steps forward for the club. We are taking 2 steps backwards with this signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: Of the players we've been linked with this transfer window, most of the opinions have been positive. This is the main one where there has been more negativity. But It's also worth pointing out that it mainly is a few who over and over repeat their negativity towards him. I'd say the general opinion in the thread is neutral or cautionsly optimistic. Not counting number of posts, but counting number of posters. And fwiw I value your opinion highly as you have followed him for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Like he's gotten a tune out of El Ghazi and Trezeguet? I'm afraid you can't polish a turd. Right, who put 50p in @villalad21 Might as well wait until we’ve seen him firsthand before we start writing him off. We’ve seen enough who look like absolute worldies and haven’t made the cut, this could potentially go the opposite way! Edited September 14, 2020 by SuperTed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspiration Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: Wasn't good personalities and characters so important for Smith? According to Lyon fans this guy has got attitude problems. Not much of this signing makes sense. Said Benrahma who had 17 goals and 9 assist last season is available and has been all summer. And we choose to pay 19 million for this guy? Watkins was a great start and 2 steps forward for the club. We are taking 2 steps backwards with this signing. You probably thought Jordan Ayew had attitude problems. He’s turned out ok elsewhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Was this from the San Francisco resident on the Lyon forum? I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Doesn't tell the whole story but Traoré has scored 21 and assisted 10 in 5666 minutes of football for Olympique Lyon in Ligue 1, that's about 63 games worth of football in terms of minutes on the pitch, so not sure where people get the idea that his stats aren't very good, even if you ignore the goals per minutes things he's still not far off a goal every four games for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 17 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I'm sick of all this bloody " racism "! Do you think Bob's my uncle as well? Mortimer or Marley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, The Rosk said: I actually would like a selfish forward to come in. There was zero self-belief in the front line last year. Jack had to practically smack them in off the forwards' ar5es last year to get goals. In some ways you are right and I do not mind selfishness if you can make things happen out of it. It's when it costs the team games and you knew the play fail, but still go for it even though you knew failure was in the air, thats the kind of selfish attitude I do not like. By all means if you see a goal and are going to score sure have at it, tell your team mate to F off that was yours because you were a 1000% sure the move was going to pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Wasn't good personalities and characters so important for Smith? According to Lyon fans this guy has got attitude problems. Not much of this signing makes sense. Said Benrahma who had 17 goals and 9 assist last season is available and has been all summer. And we choose to pay 19 million for this guy? Watkins was a great start and 2 steps forward for the club. We are taking 2 steps backwards with this signing. Yes, and the manager who knows him better than ALL of us and probably most managers has chosen NOT to get him. So you value the judgement of some our our fans and Lyon fans over his? Does the advice/listening to observed opinions only matter when it suits the narrative we want to portray? Edited September 14, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, Dave-R said: In some ways you are right and I do not mind selfishness if you can make things happen out of it. It's when it costs the team games and you knew the play fail, but still go for it even though you knew failure was in the air, thats the kind of selfish attitude I do not like. By all means if you see a goal and are going to score sure have at it, tell your team mate to F off that was yours because you were a 1000% sure the move was going to pull off. Yeah, with players who can actually score for fun, you can forgive the selfishness. Malcolm Macdonald always said that the only three things he thought about in a game were himself, the ball and the opposition's net. I guess Darren Bent was another one. But I'd rather have an all-rounder - and I think we've got one in Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Walks in to our team. Don’t see the issue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmik Debris Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Wasn't good personalities and characters so important for Smith? According to Lyon fans this guy has got attitude problems. Not much of this signing makes sense. Said Benrahma who had 17 goals and 9 assist last season is available and has been all summer. And we choose to pay 19 million for this guy? Watkins was a great start and 2 steps forward for the club. We are taking 2 steps backwards with this signing. Where the feck is my yawn emote .... oh here it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Inspiration said: You probably thought Jordan Ayew had attitude problems. He’s turned out ok elsewhere This kinda shit keeps happening with certain players and I can't put my finger on why. What IS the common denominator here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspiration Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: This kinda shit keeps happening with certain players and I can't put my finger on why. What IS the common denominator here? I blame the conservatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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