Popular Post BOF Posted December 1, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2020 Let's not look back. Let's take it out on Newcastle. If Ollie is half as pissed off as I am then it'll be a hattrick against Spud face. But for **** sake give the penalties back to Jack. You're shit at them. 33% success rate is atrocious. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dubbs said: There are a lot of good things about his game. Unfortunately taking penalties isn't one of them. If i remember correctly Wesley missed 2/2 as last season. 1 in pre season and 1 against Norwich. Pretty impressive how we sign striker on striker who all are uselss on pens. Edited December 1, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 1, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, villalad21 said: If i remember correctly Wesley missed 2/2 as last season. 1 in pre season and 1 against Norwich. Pretty impressive how we sign striker on striker who all are uselss on pens. Real Madrid have some of the finest attacking talent on Earth, yet Ramos is their penalty taker and even he missed two in a game not long ago. It's certainly a strange quirk, though, that I can't recall us having anyone since Yorke who filled me with confidence on pens. Maybe Carew, as he certainly had the right mentality for it. Saunders was a similar sort of finisher to Watkins but I saw him take some absolutely stinking penalties too. Perhaps instinctive strikers just aren't good penalty takers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, NurembergVillan said: Real Madrid have some of the finest attacking talent on Earth, yet Ramos is their penalty taker and even he missed two in a game not long ago. It's certainly a strange quirk, though, that I can't recall us having anyone since Yorke who filled me with confidence on pens. Maybe Carew, as he certainly had the right mentality for it. Saunders was a similar sort of finisher to Watkins but I saw him take some absolutely stinking penalties too. Perhaps instinctive strikers just aren't good penalty takers. Barry?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, NurembergVillan said: Real Madrid have some of the finest attacking talent on Earth, yet Ramos is their penalty taker and even he missed two in a game not long ago. It's certainly a strange quirk, though, that I can't recall us having anyone since Yorke who filled me with confidence on pens. Maybe Carew, as he certainly had the right mentality for it. Saunders was a similar sort of finisher to Watkins but I saw him take some absolutely stinking penalties too. Perhaps instinctive strikers just aren't good penalty takers. Milner surely? Was a penalty master with us, think he only ever 'missed' 1 if I recall rightly. Haven't kept track of his penalty-taking since leaving us but a quick look online tell me he's taken 35 in competitive matches and scored 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, est1874 said: Milner surely? Was a penalty master with us, think he only ever 'missed' 1 if I recall rightly. Haven't kept track of his penalty-taking since leaving us but a quick look online tell me he's taken 35 in competitive matches and scored 30. And of the 5 he didn't score 4 were on target but saved. 34 out of 35 on target is the kind of ratio we should be aiming for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, villalad21 said: If i remember correctly Wesley missed 2/2 as last season. 1 in pre season and 1 against Norwich. Pretty impressive how we sign striker on striker who all are uselss on pens. No he scored the one in preseason. Roof of the net missed the one against Norwich though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, est1874 said: Milner surely? Was a penalty master with us, think he only ever 'missed' 1 if I recall rightly. Haven't kept track of his penalty-taking since leaving us but a quick look online tell me he's taken 35 in competitive matches and scored 30. Jedi, never missed a pen did he? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Benteke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Benteke weren’t great. Last proper pen takers we’ve had were Milner and Barry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Benteke weren’t great. Last proper pen takers we’ve had were Milner and Barry. It's funny because I thought I remembered Benteke missing too many but looking at his stats he scored 7 and missed 2 for us. I think it's only because of how high Barry and Milner had set the bar beforehand I remember his misses. We'd kill for a striker who converted 78% of them right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, YouUnastanFren said: It's funny because I thought I remembered Benteke missing too many but looking at his stats he scored 7 and missed 2 for us. I think it's only because of how high Barry and Milner had set the bar beforehand I remember his misses. We'd kill for a striker who converted 78% of them right now He just never gave you confidence taking them. The stupid run up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 1, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, est1874 said: Milner surely? Was a penalty master with us, think he only ever 'missed' 1 if I recall rightly. Haven't kept track of his penalty-taking since leaving us but a quick look online tell me he's taken 35 in competitive matches and scored 30. Good shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 1, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: Barry?? Another good shout. Neither Barry or Milner were forwards, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, YouUnastanFren said: It's funny because I thought I remembered Benteke missing too many but looking at his stats he scored 7 and missed 2 for us. I think it's only because of how high Barry and Milner had set the bar beforehand I remember his misses. We'd kill for a striker who converted 78% of them right now 78% isn't bad at all. Barry's ratio is 84%. Actually, one of those missed Benteke penalties he ended up scoring from the rebound. So if you count that as well, 8 out of 9 is really good. Edited December 1, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Get him the hell away from penalties, but otherwise really good. 6 goals (7 were it not for VAR corruption) is a very good return from his first 9 league games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 13 hours ago, VillaChris said: There was no need though. He hits penalty exactly like he did v Southampton and he scores. I always think if player is a little unsure in himself on penalties he should just go down the middle as keeper will pretty much always dive. Troy Deeney seems to do that every single penalty and scores the vast majority of his. Ashley Young also tended to do it if he'd missed one recently for us. left right middle you make your choice. It was very nearly the perfect penalty. A fraction lower its a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 hours ago, villa89 said: Players should never get to decide who takes a penalty IMO. The manager should know who is the best penalty taker on the pitch by seeing them take them in training and that player should take the pens. You should be scoring 90% of the penalties you get (or above). It feels like we have about a 60% strike rate down through the years. It was pretty much 90% when we had Barry, Milner and Young. All three were pretty good. Even in more recent times Benteke only missed about 2 and Tammy once in promotion season. Only in last 18 months things haven't been great but we haven't actually had that many. Does need to be sorted though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Zatman said: He just never gave you confidence taking them. The stupid run up Didn't mind it, just made keepers commit early and he'd roll it in the other corner. That last minute one he scored v West Brom was very clutch, miss and we'd have gone down that season rather than a year later. Think he missed at Arsenal but scored the rebound and Howard made a very good save when we played Everton as he hit it towards the top corner. Think Tammy only missed one in the promotion season which people are forgetting. Also scored in the shoot out v West Brom. Kodj was decent at them aswell although he oddly didn't take one in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Real Madrid have some of the finest attacking talent on Earth, yet Ramos is their penalty taker and even he missed two in a game not long ago. It's certainly a strange quirk, though, that I can't recall us having anyone since Yorke who filled me with confidence on pens. Maybe Carew, as he certainly had the right mentality for it. Saunders was a similar sort of finisher to Watkins but I saw him take some absolutely stinking penalties too. Perhaps instinctive strikers just aren't good penalty takers. Apparently the ball from his penalty against Newcastle away has just discovered life on Pluto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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