Five Ken McNaughts Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 13 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Interesting. This whole time I've thought languid meant a more relaxed, effortless, breeze-like quality to movement. Exactly how every article on Johan Cruyff used it. Some dictionaries acknowledge the positive angle, while others list only negative examples (I would suggest it is the latter that need to catch up with its modern usage, especially in a sporting context). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 The game seems effortless to him, which is always the sign of a good player. I’m looking forward to seeing more of him over the next few weeks/months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 White players with a certain languidity (yeah that's not a word) that I can think of are Matic and Carrick. Always seem to be in the right part of the pitch without seemingly busting a gut. Have to remember that a player will generally be in the area of the pitch that the coaching staff tell them to be. Fans will sometimes get on players backs if they don't press in certain areas, or track back in certain transitions. Mostly though this is due to instructions and not because they can't be arsed. Would have to be a very special player to get away with being lazy in a Gerrard team I imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 so are we then agreeing that languidity (still not a word) is more used to denote players with very good positional skills then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I agree mate, languid definitely isn’t lazy in footballing terms. Whatever the true definition of languid is. It means : languid /ˈlaŋɡwɪd/ Learn to pronounce adjective 1. (of a person, manner, or gesture) having or showing a disinclination for physical exertion or effort. "his languid demeanour irritated her" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Any chance that the respective contributors to the Collins, Oxford, Cambridge and Webster-Merriam dictionaries can take their discussions on word definitions to the off topic section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 13 hours ago, MaVilla said: Languid may mean one thing in the dictionary, but in footballing terms imo its used as a phrase to denote a "lazy style", that doesnt mean someone is lazy, but that their playing style looks kind of relaxed, so much so that it loks out of place compared to your "average" player, this doesnt mean they are less effective, but that the are so comfortable, relaxed and usually actually highly competent, that it stands out as a relaxed/lazy look in their style of play. Players that spring to mind for me like this are/were Faustino Asprilla, Matt Le Tissier etc, even Traore. Polar opposites would be Raheem Sterling who runs like he's carrying shopping and John Mcginn who runs like one of the teenage mutant ninja turtles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 The most languid player I remember is Paulo Wanchope! Anyway enough about the word Languid. Carney needs to sign a new contract. Bright future with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The most languid player I remember is Paulo Wanchope! Anyway enough about the word Languid. Carney needs to sign a new contract. Bright future with us. maybe he's languidly progressing towards signing a new contract!? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Words evolve and their meaning changes with time in accordance with popular usage. These days if someone is lazy, you will not call him languid. Anyway, Chukeumeka is an exciting prospect, still very young, and still progressing. I think we expected him to explode onto the scene, well I did anyway, and that was expecting too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Rumours that he's signed a contract ✍ Edited December 10, 2021 by HalfTimePost 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Rumours that he's signed a contract ✍ With United 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Rumours that he's signed a contract ✍ Sauce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonVillian Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Sauce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 08/12/2021 at 23:22, AntrimBlack said: That's a bit of a stretch. It was that and the fact Chiellini should have been sent off and tried for attempted murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, HalfTimePost said: Rumours that he's signed a contract ✍ Did you start this rumour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 08/12/2021 at 15:31, Stevo985 said: Languid is a synonym for lazy (and lazy has already been used in this thread) It's something I've written about before on here. Only black players ever seem to get labelled as lazy by football fans (including VillaTalk and at Villa Park) Benteke, Ayew, Carew, Onomah, Wesley, Gestede are all names who spring to mind who have been labelled as lazy consistently. I find it amazing that Carney has already attracted the label after only a few appearances I honestly cannot think of a single white player who has been labelled lazy. They just "lack pace" or are "slow" I'm not calling anybody racist by the way, I'm not saying anyone who has called Carney lazy or languid is racist. It's just a quirk that I think is subconsciously instilled in a lot of people FWIW I haven't seen anything to suggest Carney is lazy or languid so I'm not really sure where it's coming from Yeah, without even mentioning beast, monster etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, YLN said: It was that and the fact Chiellini should have been sent off and tried for attempted murder Still wouldn’t have helped England to win the “World Cup” though as was mentioned in the original post. The euros maybe… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, YLN said: It was that and the fact Chiellini should have been sent off and tried for attempted murder The Chiellini incident happened on the half way line for crying out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 08/12/2021 at 16:31, Stevo985 said: Languid is a synonym for lazy (and lazy has already been used in this thread) It's something I've written about before on here. Only black players ever seem to get labelled as lazy by football fans (including VillaTalk and at Villa Park) Benteke, Ayew, Carew, Onomah, Wesley, Gestede are all names who spring to mind who have been labelled as lazy consistently. I find it amazing that Carney has already attracted the label after only a few appearances I honestly cannot think of a single white player who has been labelled lazy. They just "lack pace" or are "slow" I'm not calling anybody racist by the way, I'm not saying anyone who has called Carney lazy or languid is racist. It's just a quirk that I think is subconsciously instilled in a lot of people FWIW I haven't seen anything to suggest Carney is lazy or languid so I'm not really sure where it's coming from Here is one lazy word removed that played for us http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/12/26/19/3BA6F4C700000578-4066862-image-m-122_1482780380779.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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