Summer Transfers Window 2020

[Follyfoot]

3 hours ago, Enda said:

“England quality” means in or around the English squad, so I’ve always taken “world class” to mean in or around the hypothetical best team in the world.

Aston Villa?

[useless]

The reports in Denmark claim that we've had long standing interest in Nelsson dating back to before Lange was at the club, although they also say we're favorites to sign him because of Lange. Copenhagen only signed him last year from FC Nordsjælland, but apparently Covid is affecting their finances, so €10m would be too good to turn down despite him being seen as a very important player for them.

[villaglint]

Anybody think Engels will move on? No idea if we’ll find a buyer while he’s injured. Maybe that’s what Deano meant by were looking for one and then see if we can move a couple out (ie replace them). So one addition to squad and then two more if we can make space by selling two players. 

[DaveAV1]

1 hour ago, Follyfoot said:

Morning guys, been building up strength and resolve to post this. After watching the Tesco’ carrier bag game last night and in particular the German import to Chelsea Werner, I’m now now of the opinion that  the majority of the so called quality players in the German league are very much overrated and Milot Rashica would be a terrible purchase for our great club. I fully understand that I may get the equivalent of the Judge Dredd Longwalk punishment for this post but felt it had to be done. So help me God

Listen there’s no need to worry yourself. There’s lots of help you can get now and so you don’t have to face this alone. Prince William is setting up a trust to help people in your situation and I’d assume that a number of government agencies will also back the Campaign for Rashica Awareness Psychosis. Stay strong mate, we can walk this path together. 

Edited September 27, 2020 by DaveAV1

[Jareth]

55 minutes ago, VillaAlex said:

 

At 6ft 1, he's an inch shorter than Tommy Elphick - he's nano.  

[villan-scott]

15 minutes ago, Jareth said:

At 6ft 1, he's an inch shorter than Tommy Elphick - he's nano.  

How is this even possible?

[ramshackler]

50 minutes ago, theboyangel said:

So only 11 players at one time can be world class? 

i don't think there's an actual definition of world class, it's just a moniker for players who are clearly head and shoulders above most others and would not look out of place in any of the big teams or nations starting XIs. 

Yes, obviously there will still be debate, but arguably anyone sensibly in the debate to be considered for the world's best starting 11 can be classed as WC 

Inevitably you'll have 3/4 for each position barring Ronaldo and messi

[Villan4Life]

25 minutes ago, Jareth said:

At 6ft 1, he's an inch shorter than Tommy Elphick - he's nano.  

Franco Baresi says hi

[KenjiOgiwara]

6 minutes ago, Villan4Life said:

Franco Baresi says hi

Take your Baresi and raise you with Ayala. 

I have a slight adoration for short CBs. Baresi is a favo. But Ayala was pretty decent too. Guess Cannavaro was a midget as well. 

[DaveAV1]

I think there’s an element, at this stage of the transfer window, that we need to try to move some players on. Partly it helps with wages but also you can only keep so many players happy and of course 25, (I think), is the maximum senior squad size. I’m not 100% sure how the U23/development players fit in with the numbers.
 

It’s probably a bit of a juggling act of not selling before we’ve got replacements in but at the same time not missing an opportunity to move a player we would like to, if the buying club is in a rush to get things done. Especially as the window and season overlap this year. We will of course be in a similar situation in reverse with players we want to bring in. 

Tricky ain’t it? 

[ChinlessWonder]

World class for me would be someone who has stood out at the very highest level and on more than one occasion. For example someone who's had a great world cup, preferrably got to the very latest stages and then the following year done a similar thing for their club in the Champions League. Also someone who's played for the top English/Spanish/Italian/German team over several years of them being at the very top and the player in question being one of the key reasons for their success. A player can of course be world class for a period of their career and then less so at the start or end. Players in the PL i can think of at the moment; Aguero, Silva (or perhaps until the last year or two), De Bruyne, Alexander-Arnold, Van Diyk, Salah, Alisson. You'd also include Kane for me, a bit less successful club level than those but did well in the WC and Champs League and his overall goalscoring record is phenominal.

Barcelona had many in that team from 10 years ago, Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Alves for sure and a few others that could be argued for as well.

I think Drogba was world class for a period. England class is different though because it depends how good the England team is at the time. There are a lot of England players over the last 10 years or more that would have got no where near the England team in 1990.

Edited September 27, 2020 by ChinlessWonder

[Silent_Bob]

52 minutes ago, Jareth said:

At 6ft 1, he's an inch shorter than Tommy Elphick - he's nano.  

Joe Short doesn’t tweet about tall players

[DaveAV1]

13 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

Take your Baresi and raise you with Ayala. 

I have a slight adoration for short CBs. Baresi is a favo. But Ayala was pretty decent too. Guess Cannavaro was a midget as well. 

A mate of mine has a theory that shorter players learn to compensate by having a better ability to jump. Conversely tall players don’t develop this ability as much as they should because they don’t need to as much. 

Alan Wright always amazed me how many headers he got to and yet others, I can’t think of a good example but there are plenty, who were 6’+ who would barely get off the ground and lose most of the height advantage they had. 

[Vive_La_Villa]

Last Danish centre half we had wasn’t too shabby. 

[lexicon]

At 21 and with a decent amount of playing time already, is he going to be happy warming the bench as a squad option? 

[yayoboy]

2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Last Danish centre half we had wasn’t too shabby. 

Jores Okore 

[Vive_La_Villa]

2 minutes ago, yayoboy said:

Jores Okore 

Ive just completely wiped the years from Mcleish to relegation out my mind. 

[jacketspuds]

Could be good competition for Konsa, who himself is "only" 6ft tall. We don't need 2 giant CB's, especially if one of them, like Engels, is very slow.

Besides, if it pushes Hause down to a 4th choice CB I'm all for it.

[KenjiOgiwara]

20 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said:

A mate of mine has a theory that shorter players learn to compensate by having a better ability to jump. Conversely tall players don’t develop this ability as much as they should because they don’t need to as much. 

Alan Wright always amazed me how many headers he got to and yet others, I can’t think of a good example but there are plenty, who were 6’+ who would barely get off the ground and lose most of the height advantage they had. 

From my personal experience, it was more about timing. I was always a head shorter (and I always felt I played against bloody giants), but was pretty alright at it winning those challenges. 

If you got timing, bollocks to get hurt and a general sense of positioning, you can do surprisingly well. Not saying jumping skills doesn't help cause it's obviously a help. Alan Wright yeah. Easily in my favourite 11. 

Edited September 27, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara

[pintpotvilla]

Does anyone know whether he is left or right footed?