QldVilla Posted September 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2020 He’s young, so always helps with recovery, but the challenge is getting the mobility and confidence back when running and making lateral movements. His fitness, speed are all impacted on and can take several months to get back close to where he was. When he’s back he’ll be on the bench and may take to Xmas before he’s 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, QldVilla said: He’s young, so always helps with recovery, but the challenge is getting the mobility and confidence back when running and making lateral movements. His fitness, speed are all impacted on and can take several months to get back close to where he was. When he’s back he’ll be on the bench and may take to Xmas before he’s 100%. I thought it was target Xmas anyway. If there is any substance to this rumour - it's going to way beyond Xmas before he is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted September 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, hippo said: I thought it was target Xmas anyway. If there is any substance to this rumour - it's going to way beyond Xmas before he is available. Wasn’t aware there was a rumour, it’s just what the process is with these type of injuries. The club would be the only ones who know where he is at, but it will be largely down to how quickly he gets his fitness and confidence back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) I think he is going to be really useful for us. Throughout the final weeks of the season he was always around the team and he was taking part in the celebrations on the final day as well. To me that suggests that he is probably closer to a return rather than getting further away from it. Maybe there has been a setback that we haven’t been made aware of yet - but he doesn’t strike me as someone who would be to impacted by his injury psychologically - he’s been through too much to get to this stage in has career to let it. One of my fav players alongside Grealish and Luiz. Edited September 5, 2020 by Tayls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wezbid Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 I fecking hate Ben Mee. I might tell him that on twitter, ruin his weekend. Piece of shit. 8 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) he gets a clean slate from me when he returns. It will be much better for us and him, if he is 3rd choice and we ease him back. Then next season see if he is capable of pushing on. Edited September 5, 2020 by DCJonah 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Tayls said: I think he is going to be really useful for us. Throughout the final weeks of the season he was always around the team and he was taking part in the celebrations on the final day as well. To me that suggests that he is probably closer to a return rather than getting further away from it. Maybe there has been a setback that we haven’t been made aware of yet - but he doesn’t strike me as someone who would be to impacted by his injury psychologically - he’s been through too much to get to this stage in has career to let it. One of my fav players alongside Grealish and Luiz. From his Instagram it appears like he’s still in Brazil. That would indicate to me he’s not near returning to action 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, mikeyp102 said: From his Instagram it appears like he’s still in Brazil. That would indicate to me he’s not near returning to action We need a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, DCJonah said: he gets a clean slate from me when he returns. It will be much better for us and him, if he is 3rd choice and we ease him back. Then next season see if he is capable of pushing on. In an ideal world he comes back in November or December and gets some games under his belt I'd then loan him out to Belgium or another minor league where he can get starts and get his confidence back and then he's fully up to speed for 21/22. Would loan out Davis for six months and get him back in January. Way some talk on here though it's like he's a serious option for this season so don't think some realise how serious this injury is and how far he is off returning e.g. just get in one striker as Wesley will be back soon. Edited September 5, 2020 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 05/09/2020 at 00:04, hippo said: I thought it was target Xmas anyway. If there is any substance to this rumour - it's going to way beyond Xmas before he is available. Beyond christmas sounds a long time to me, are there many other examples of players with similar injuries who have been out for much longer than a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Beyond christmas sounds a long time to me, are there many other examples of players with similar injuries who have been out for much longer than a year? Depay had a similar injury a couple weeks earlier than Wesley and was back for the CL. But wesley has about 50lbs on depay and his injury was his pcl and has existing leg issues so I wouldn't be surprised to see it take an extra 3 months. Also depay was rushed back to play in the CL probably was not a great decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 15 hours ago, DCJonah said: he gets a clean slate from me when he returns. It will be much better for us and him, if he is 3rd choice and we ease him back. Then next season see if he is capable of pushing on. I agree, I think this scenario eases him back in and may be less pressure on him too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 19 hours ago, DCJonah said: he gets a clean slate from me when he returns. It will be much better for us and him, if he is 3rd choice and we ease him back. Then next season see if he is capable of pushing on. This is where I am with him total clean slate when he returns. He annoys the hell out of me, he should be an absolute bully on the pitch but has been an absolute fanny at times if he could just man up I think he can potentially do well. Being down the pecking order may really benefit him I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) I’m not fussed about rushing him back because I really didn’t rate him in the first place. He was completely ineffective anyway and will be even worse for such a severe injury. Edited September 6, 2020 by Pimlico_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2020 52 minutes ago, Pimlico_Villa said: He was completely ineffective anyway Aside from when he was... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 06/09/2020 at 01:50, MotoMkali said: Depay had a similar injury a couple weeks earlier than Wesley and was back for the CL. But wesley has about 50lbs on depay and his injury was his pcl and has existing leg issues so I wouldn't be surprised to see it take an extra 3 months. Also depay was rushed back to play in the CL probably was not a great decision. If they tore different ligaments then the injuries were not similar. Maybe how they occured was but the prognosis and rehab will have been completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, sparrow1988 said: If they tore different ligaments then the injuries were not similar. Maybe how they occured was but the prognosis and rehab will have been completely different. They have a similar time frame for recovery and they are both knee ligaments. Tearing your pcl is a very rare injury in football and therefore an ACL is the closest equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Bottom line - I don't think he is back with the rest of the squad. Whether he is reahabbing in the gym, or still resting, who knows. - I would say he looks unlikely to be available before Xmas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: They have a similar time frame for recovery and they are both knee ligaments. Tearing your pcl is a very rare injury in football and therefore an ACL is the closest equivalent. Was it really a PCL injury and not ACL? I thought I read at the time it was ACL, which has a standard recovery time of 9-12 months and is much more common as you mentioned. PCL tear is a very rare injury because it's a very thick ligament and is very difficult to snap it. Usually happens in car crashes and the like. Good thing is that recovery from it should be quicker than from an ACL injury and athletes generally don't have setbacks and complications from it, from what I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 hours ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: Was it really a PCL injury and not ACL? I thought I read at the time it was ACL, which has a standard recovery time of 9-12 months and is much more common as you mentioned. PCL tear is a very rare injury because it's a very thick ligament and is very difficult to snap it. Usually happens in car crashes and the like. Good thing is that recovery from it should be quicker than from an ACL injury and athletes generally don't have setbacks and complications from it, from what I know. It is quite common in basketball likely due to heavy impacts and larger size. But yeah I think it was his pcl as as the rupture probably due to his large size and existing leg troubles it may have been easier to injure than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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