Delphinho123 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: I can’t help it, every time I read your posts I hear Dave Angel speaking the words in my head Eco Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Eco Warrior. I hate you Delphino your opinions always get carried away... by a moon light shadow! Edited August 8, 2020 by VillanousOne 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I completely disagree with this, in fact I'd say a CAM is exactly what he is. Just on a very low level. He's fairly capable of attributes like passing, vision, off ball. But he completely lacks fundamental striker qualities like directness, pace, acceleration, urgency, heading, shooting. He looks far more comfortable orchestrating a goal than scoring it. I do find your posts humourous sometimes, they reek of someone who has played 20 seasons at the top level and knows everything. We should be honoured to have such expert punditry within the VT walls. Wesley is a lot better than you give him credit for! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: Lol. No chance. No chance of it it happening or no chance you’d want it to happen? Edited August 8, 2020 by 7392craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 43 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I completely disagree with this, in fact I'd say a CAM is exactly what he is. Just on a very low level. He's fairly capable of attributes like passing, vision, off ball. But he completely lacks fundamental striker qualities like directness, pace, acceleration, urgency, heading, shooting. He looks far more comfortable orchestrating a goal than scoring it. How far into your save on FM 2020 are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, bobzy said: How far into your save on FM 2020 are you? Actually don't have that game. I loved CM 93/94 mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: I do find your posts humourous sometimes, they reek of someone who has played 20 seasons at the top level and knows everything. We should be honoured to have such expert punditry within the VT walls. Wesley is a lot better than you give him credit for! Not sure what's so bothersome about that post. Feel free to add your own view of his strengths, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 10 hours ago, AVTuco said: As a hedge fund manager Wes is fully aware of the need to cut your losses rigorously. It's not about Wes really, it's about needing better than Wes. But selling him for a loss gives us less money to work with because it becomes a 10 million pound loss rather than a 22 million pound asset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 9 hours ago, villalad21 said: Then we really f***ed up last summer. Dean Smith plays 4-3-3 with a traditional number 9. You can play with a false 9 or even a pseudo false 9 if your wingers and midfielders are a threat ala barca or liverpool. Players who you would back to finish a chance even if they haven't had a goal in 3. Giroud is another example of this and is more likely a similar comparison to Wesley. You just need fast dangerous wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Anything to avoid that acknowledgement he's absolute shite Next up is to have him as a DM due to his size. We know your opinion and if you aren't adding anything to the conversation then don't say anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Tommo_b said: And Balaban Thanks. Plethora. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, M_Afro said: Give the kid a chance ffs. I hope he never reads this thread because it is embarrassing. It's a handful of people tearing into him over and over again tbh. Think most Villa fans are fair on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I only asked the question of Wesley playing as a CAM because a lot of people, myself included, have suggested trying a 4-2-3-1. I’m not necessarily advocating him playing in that position myself. Just with him playing a bit deeper in Belgium to some success, and him seemingly lacking all the qualities of a lone striker, what would people think of him as a CAM. Fair to say the results were mixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, KentVillan said: It's a handful of people tearing into him over and over again tbh. Think most Villa fans are fair on him. Ironically, most fans I'm seeing on social media, where people tend to be outlandish, are surprisingly tempered and optimistic. It's really on on here that you're seeing this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillz Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Talk of selling him for a loss is nonsense. The guy is 23 and by all accounts relatively new to professional football. In his first season he scored 5 PL goals before a horror injury sidelined him for the second half of the season. (Our 3rd top goalscorer and 4 more than our other strikers combined) He showed enough to at least let the lad recover and play another year to see if he will for-fill his potential (albeit, maybe as a backup striker/sub) before we right him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 His goals were actually well taken, but one of my memories whilst he was playing was that he couldn't shoot from mid to long range, every time I saw him shoot it was a tame shot, like he has no power in his legs. There's a player in there, I don't think we appreciated him whilst he played but since he was out the team we definitely missed him. There were a few games too when he came off as a sub, the team seemed to do worse when he was off the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 34 minutes ago, Gillz said: Talk of selling him for a loss is nonsense. The guy is 23 and by all accounts relatively new to professional football. Bollox, by some accounts he's turning 24. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2020 6 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Not sure what's so bothersome about that post. Feel free to add your own view of his strengths, if any. Ive added my views before, and I don't feel the need to repeat myself continually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 7 hours ago, MotoMkali said: You can play with a false 9 or even a pseudo false 9 if your wingers and midfielders are a threat ala barca or liverpool. Players who you would back to finish a chance even if they haven't had a goal in 3. Giroud is another example of this and is more likely a similar comparison to Wesley. You just need fast dangerous wingers. Giroud isn't dilly dallying in midfield. He is always in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Keep Wesley for this season at least, let him play and let him earn him earn his way into first eleven. Does us no good to sell him at half price, not sure if I'd sell him at money back, there is always the chance Wesley could be what were exactly needing in front of goal. Wesley just needs training, training that he can be given at Villa and as others have said had a decent first season considering it was his first. Many go on about how he is put to ground to easily, but you go back to his final few games and he started to push back, send man u players flying into the advertising boards. Wesley has a good pass on him which I think helped us early in the season, partly why we went abit bad because of his injury and others to,it changed us not having those players available. I fear if we get rid of Wesley we will truly regret it, it's better to find out than never to of found out. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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