zab6359 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 02/02/2021 at 05:37, osmark86 said: Damn this thread turned sour. As much as I'm not a huge Wes fan judging by some of the comments on here we really have been infiltrated by noses!! Shocking! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I worry about him ever getting fully back up to speed. It's been well over a year now and one look at the still from that tackle reminds you just how horrific it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, supermon said: Still not up to sprinting capacity as before his injury, he is a long way off, looks really unlikely he'll play a game this season. Comparing his social media posts to VVD is like chalk and cheese VVD already seems far more mobile and advanced in his recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa 59 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 15 hours ago, MrBlack said: So a player who has moved half way across the world to ply his trade, had to suffer a career threatening injury at the hands of the biggest thug in English football, spent 12 months getting back to fitness so he can repay the faith put in him by the club, and having probably spent a significant part of that 12 months in pain.... is being called a waster. Defies belief. Well said mate. Not forgetting he can't even socialise during the lockdown. Must be very strong mentally to cope with all that. Come on Wes, hope you prove lots of people wrong. We're not all haters on here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, zab6359 said: Comparing his social media posts to VVD is like chalk and cheese VVD already seems far more mobile and advanced in his recovery. Different injuries. VVD only did his ACL. Wesley did his PCL and (also I think another ligament as well). The PCL takes a lot longer to recover because it is much bigger and is the one on the inside of your knee. It is really hard to fully tear or rupture them but I think Wesley did. In the flip side it should be quite hard to reinjure and once he gets fully fit it shouldn't have the same hamper on athleticism that ACLs often do. If you feel the ligaments on the outside of your knee it is really thin sort of like the thickness of a pencil or there abouts. But the PCL is kind of like as wide as a rasher of bacon. The ACL and PCL are under the knee cap so you actually feel them but they are similar sizes to those ones. Edited February 4, 2021 by MotoMkali Clarification of last paragraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Ah well, makes it easy to whack people on the ignore list when they come out with stuff like that. Up to 31 now, quite the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Hope:- He comes back and scores a load of goal s for us. Expectation He might get the odd cameo appearance before end of season - think he will then move on series of loans - before retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hippo said: Hope:- He comes back and scores a load of goal s for us. Expectation He might get the odd cameo appearance before end of season - think he will then move on series of loans - before retiring. I think my expectation is slightly more optimistic than yours, in expecting he becomes a better sub option than Davis by the end of the season... but it's fair to have low expectations given where he's coming from. Hope is exactly the same. As much for him as for Villa. Edited February 4, 2021 by MrBlack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: Different injuries. VVD only did his ACL. Wesley did his PCL and (also I think another ligament as well). The PCL takes a lot longer to recover because it is much bigger and is the one on the inside of your knee. It is really hard to fully tear or rupture them but I think Wesley did. In the flip side it should be quite hard to reinjure and once he gets fully fit it shouldn't have the same hamper on athleticism that ACLs often do. If you feel the ligaments on the outside of your knee it is really thin sort of like the thickness of a pencil or there abouts. But the PCL is kind of like as wide as a rasher of bacon What's the source on PCL injuries taking a lot longer to recover from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I think my expectation is slightly more optimistic than yours, in expecting he becomes a better sub option than Davis by the end of the season... but it's fair to have low expectations given where he's coming from. Hope is exactly the same. As much for him as for Villa. I had a bit of itk - while back now - that his injury was career threatening......hence my gloomy prognosis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I doubt he will be back this season he sounds a very long way off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Its disgusting if he doesnt kick a ball until the start of next season as a result of this. Best part of 20 months out, also at a really important stage of his career. You then question, as others are, whether he can perform at this level. So unnecessary the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I just don't think he will return to playing football at this level. Best of luck to him, but injuries like that are career killers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvfcRigo82 Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 03/02/2021 at 23:25, Johnnyp said: How close is this waster to the match day squad ? In all my years of posting on this forum I have read some absolute crap, but this has won it by a country mile! There is giving the usual stick to players when they are not performaing at the levels they should be or having a shit game etc., but to label a player who has suffered a near career ending injury a "waster" is just the highest grade of idiotic behaviour we have come to expect from modern day mutants that have access to keyboards. Have a word with yourself. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 5, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 04/02/2021 at 09:55, Johnnyp said: How close is this waster to the match day squad ? The type of comment I would expect some jealous blue nose to come on here and make..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mallett Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 Wesley has one leg that is significantly shorter than the other. That’s why he limps when he walks and has a slightly odd gait when he runs. I imagine it’s quite a complicating factor in his recovery. It was also mentioned a few months ago that he had some complications after the surgery that meant he was delayed in returning to Brazil by 8 weeks. 8 weeks sounds like some pretty serious complications to me. Smith said that the COVID outbreak had put Wesley back 10 days so that makes him about 10 weeks behind schedule just based on what is in the public domain. Villa fans need to cut Wesley a lot of slack for a very long time because when/if gets back onto the pitch he is going to take a long time to get back up to speed. Villa have invested a lot of money in him and there is clearly a huge gap he could fill in our squad. The club needs him to come good and the fans could help by having some unconditional good will for him. Toxicity from Villa fans towards Wes is just stupid. It’s true that before his injury Wesley hadn’t established himself as a quality Premier league player but at that point neither had a whole gaggle of our players who have since shown the necessary quality. He had shown flashes of quality (just like Douglas Luiz) but had also struggled. Based on the progression of his teammates we might have had a top quality striker in Wesley by now. The point is that there is no way that he had got to the writing him off stage. So be nice! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I view Wesley and Heaton both as stopgaps and the best we could get last season. Now i look at us moved on from them. Emi is a much better keeper than Heaton and it's not even close. Watkins is better than Wesley and with a much higher potential. I can see us moving him on in the summer and i wish him all well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 54 minutes ago, mallett said: Wesley has one leg that is significantly shorter than the other. That’s why he limps when he walks and has a slightly odd gait when he runs. I imagine it’s quite a complicating factor in his recovery. It was also mentioned a few months ago that he had some complications after the surgery that meant he was delayed in returning to Brazil by 8 weeks. 8 weeks sounds like some pretty serious complications to me. Smith said that the COVID outbreak had put Wesley back 10 days so that makes him about 10 weeks behind schedule just based on what is in the public domain. Villa fans need to cut Wesley a lot of slack for a very long time because when/if gets back onto the pitch he is going to take a long time to get back up to speed. Villa have invested a lot of money in him and there is clearly a huge gap he could fill in our squad. The club needs him to come good and the fans could help by having some unconditional good will for him. Toxicity from Villa fans towards Wes is just stupid. It’s true that before his injury Wesley hadn’t established himself as a quality Premier league player but at that point neither had a whole gaggle of our players who have since shown the necessary quality. He had shown flashes of quality (just like Douglas Luiz) but had also struggled. Based on the progression of his teammates we might have had a top quality striker in Wesley by now. The point is that there is no way that he had got to the writing him off stage. So be nice! Exactly this, well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 47 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I view Wesley and Heaton both as stopgaps and the best we could get last season. Now i look at us moved on from them. Emi is a much better keeper than Heaton and it's not even close. Watkins is better than Wesley and with a much higher potential. I can see us moving him on in the summer and i wish him all well. I can’t. He might not even be up to playing by that point. I think the club will feel they owe it to Wesley to rehabilitate him fully and give him a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 He ain’t a kid that’s had a career threatening injury that he may never recover from. He’s just a highly paid football that we can just dispose of if he doesn’t recover. That’s why it’s fine to call him Donkey, wasteman or whatever else is posted by our fans. Plus not like he reads it right? I expect this kind of shit from kids on social media. Disappointing to see it here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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