MrBlack Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) As well as being true of Elmo (they know exactly what both Elmo and Guilbert are capable of), it just doesn't make sense why they wouldn't give Guilbert a run out over Elmo, even if only for his fitness. Unless Guilbert has a knock, is awaiting a covid test result, or he's kept himself in top shape and smashed the bleep test through the roof, I'm confused why he didn't get any minutes. Edited September 13, 2020 by MrBlack expanded as it's on a new page and didn't make sense without the previous 3 posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Trying out cash and then replacing with elmo, sounds more like they have seen enough of cash to see he may need a little time to settle or get up to speed before being a guaranteed starter and didn't want to risk fred as he will be the starter. Well thats my take on it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Equally true of Elmo, though. The only way I see this making sense, is if the club just want to keep Elmo for the remainder of his contract, and have plans for another Right Back when it ends, or have a top young prospect in the ranks they want to bring through? Otherwise to me it really makes no sense, I just really don't want Guibert to go. He just has the attitude and personality which seems good to have around the squad. The fact that he is basically letting the world and the club know he doesn't want to leave us would make it even more sad ffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: The only way I see this making sense, is if the club just want to keep Elmo for the remainder of his contract, and have plans for another Right Back when it ends, or have a top young prospect in the ranks they want to bring through? Otherwise to me it really makes no sense, I just really don't want Guibert to go. Kesler? He is apparently highly rated and expected to be the first breakthrough from our young players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Guilbert confuses me. Quick down the flank, but regularly kippered on the outside. Gets forward brilliantly, but can't lay a decent cross or pass to save his life. Perhaps going forward he just hasn't adjusted to the pressure and speed of the prem, but I can see why Smith bought Cash (who also looked dodgy defensively yesterday). Was calling all season for Elmo to play at right back, and every time he does he gets quality balls into the box. Shame he gets small knocks regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) Cash hardly impressive against the Man U reserves. Looked suspect defensively. Unpopular opinion but i'd still start with Elmo. PL experience and he barely ever puts in a below 6/10 performance. Also has a good cross on him. Edited September 13, 2020 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, MrBlack said: As well as being true of Elmo (they know exactly what both Elmo and Guilbert are capable of), it just doesn't make sense why they wouldn't give Guilbert a run out over Elmo, even if only for his fitness. Unless Guilbert has a knock, is awaiting a covid test result, or he's kept himself in top shape and smashed the bleep test through the roof, I'm confused why he didn't get any minutes. Cash number 1 - Elmo number 2 - thought it was pretty obvious myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: The only way I see this making sense, is if the club just want to keep Elmo for the remainder of his contract, and have plans for another Right Back when it ends, or have a top young prospect in the ranks they want to bring through? Otherwise to me it really makes no sense, I just really don't want Guibert to go. He just has the attitude and personality which seems good to have around the squad. The fact that he is basically letting the world and the club know he doesn't want to leave us would make it even more sad ffs. The only conclusion is those who see him every day in training have a different opinion of him. I think in the short term he will stay anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Freddy might not have got a run out as he might be starting at Burton midweek. We will see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 14 hours ago, villalad21 said: Cash hardly impressive against the Man U reserves. Looked suspect defensively. Unpopular opinion but i'd still start with Elmo. PL experience and he barely ever puts in a below 6/10 performance. Also has a good cross on him. A deserved unpopular opinion - although being it is you that isn't saying much. Elmo is basically targett except he doesn't overlap which makes it impossible to create down the right except for his balls into the box. Our wingers looked shit last season whenever guilbert wasn't playing and the fact he doesn't overlap is the reason why. Also guilbert is our best ball winner and you need those. Look what happened to Leicester after they lost pereira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Assuming he’s fit I’d start Freddie both matches. If he’s a better player, Cash can earn his spot over the next month or two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 19 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: The only way I see this making sense, is if the club just want to keep Elmo for the remainder of his contract, and have plans for another Right Back when it ends, or have a top young prospect in the ranks they want to bring through? Otherwise to me it really makes no sense, I just really don't want Guibert to go. He just has the attitude and personality which seems good to have around the squad. The fact that he is basically letting the world and the club know he doesn't want to leave us would make it even more sad ffs. Not sure why he’d come out with that statement if he was on his way out. Which then makes it worse if the club is trying to sell him. Why would he agree to go after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Percy saying that we're going to listen to offers for him. I think this indicates how highly Smith and the coaching staff rate Kesler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, useless said: Percy saying that we're going to listen to offers for him. I think this indicates how highly Smith and the coaching staff rate Kesler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romavillan Posted September 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2020 Pretty sure th Guilbert being pushed out stuff is knackers. We need him as competition for Cash, just like we need a Taylor replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I like Guilbert. Good attitude, battler, quick. He's prone to switching off though - and he lacks a final product. I'd like to keep him but wasn't surprised we brought in competition. Thing is, we need to free up space in our squad, and Freddie is a saleable asset in a way that others aren't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, romavillan said: Pretty sure th Guilbert being pushed out stuff is knackers. We need him as competition for Cash, just like we need a Taylor replacement. If we sign Rashica and Traore that means we have one right back too many. Shipping one off only makes sense. Elmo isn't going anywhere. Incredibly important figure in the dressing room and reliable player. Edited September 14, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Condimentalist said: I like Guilbert. Good attitude, battler, quick. He's prone to switching off though - and he lacks a final product. I'd like to keep him but wasn't surprised we brought in competition. Thing is, we need to free up space in our squad, and Freddie is a saleable asset in a way that others aren't. Agree, 20m plus Traore and Lyon can have him, 80% sell on fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Stick him in the Championship for a year with Joe Lolley in front of him and someone will come along with a £7.5-15m offer. No doubt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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