TRO Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, KSV said: And that's how we've got relegated paying big money to shit players who lack fight for the club. I wish I could press like about 5,000 times ps .....Triers and fight are being very much confused at our club Edited January 15, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 We need players for the next game, not ones on afcon that will miss most of Jan and beginning of Feb. We now have a winnable run of fixtures and need new players to achieve that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, KSV said: That's the difference though. We aren't getting top players. Were attracting average or players past their best for top dollar. Or players who only come for the money and just happy to collect.. whether we lose or not.. they don't care. I would suspect the single biggest factor that has challenged our club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 09:48, TheMelvillan said: Adlene is 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottingVilla Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Xela said: We can attract players the same way we always do Playing them some Puff Daddy songs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, theboyangel said: Reading the avami thread, several posters already think we don't have any left backs at all! Good luck to cissokho, not the greatest player we've had but not the worst by far (and he could defend) whose Avami? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Guediora wouldn't be too bad at all. I'd take him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: whose Avami? Ha ha, whoever he is, he's bound to be crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: whose Avami? How many do people have? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 FFS we don't want any more African players that are going to piss off to ACON in January and February and leave us in the lurch. Stick to European players that have a sensible season and will be around August to May! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, pacbuddies said: FFS we don't want any more African players that are going to piss off to ACON in January and February and leave us in the lurch. Stick to European players that have a sensible season and will be around August to May! I'm inclined to agree. There is absolutely no point in signing players who are going to bugger off for 15% of the season. Not when there is no need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 2 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: I'm sure they're trying, and I can't help but nod my head in agreement. But then we've been saying the same for years. Selling Gabby is a no brainer but to who exactly? that's the issue. We can all get emotional about cancelling contracts and releasing people on a free. In the real world though it's just loads more complicated. We can only speculate on the wage bill but rest assured it's massive for the division we're in. Including the 3 on loan there are 9 central midfielders at the club and we all know we need 2/3 of those. It is ridiculous to think we can ever be in a position where 11 or 12 first team squad members are fighting it out for 2/3 positions every week and afford it. Likewise with the strikers - including RHM we have 6 first teamers and have just sold Gestede. Of those 7, 1 is/was a functioning member of the team. We cant simply go buying striker number 7 and or 8 just because 5 of them are next to useless and pray we go up. I wish there were clubs lining up for Bacuna/Cissokho etc thinking they could snap up a bargain but I doubt any of them will get wage parity anywhere and I cant see them having much incentive to leave. Half a squad of Stephen Ireland's basically. What a depressing comment. (Which is not to say it's wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, TrentVilla said: We aren't making play offs so I'd pull any deals and wait for the summer when there will be more options. Also. Why pay £4m for players we can get for free. Can't sort out this mess in one window , need to start bedding players in now , think bringing to many faces in during one window sets a team back few months. Players need to settle Edited January 15, 2017 by pete101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 4 hours ago, KSV said: That's the difference though. We aren't getting top players. Were attracting average or players past their best for top dollar. Or players who only come for the money and just happy to collect.. whether we lose or not.. they don't care. I don't think that's quite fair. Elphick for example seems to be an issue of confidence, not someone taking the piss. I don't recall anyone thinking McCormick was either past it or a golddigger when he signed. Jedinak seems past his best. Chester and Kodjia seem like good signings who have performed. Tshibola seemed an improvement at the time. Gollini was a gamble on youth, and perhaps the problem was doing that without more strength in depth, so that he got pushed too far too soon. So I think it's more of a mixed picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 2 hours ago, NottingVilla said: Playing them some Puff Daddy songs? Can't be any less effective than the team talks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jas10 Posted January 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2017 Don't agree with any kind of defeatist attitude, we need to try and remain optimistic somehow and persist. Things will improve, no doubt in my mind of that, it's just a case of how long it will take. I genuinely believe we have a good group of people running the club now and have shifted quite a few of those that were detrimental. We absolutely should not "give up on this season", that makes no sense at all and should be as active as possible in the transfer market, any realistic opportunity to enhance and advance the team should be taken advantage of regardless of whether we have a chance of getting promoted or not. We need to progress and I'm sure there is plenty of effort going on behind the scenes to sort us out. We've been through such a rot and the scars have not healed yet but I'm sure they will. I do believe that the management is aware of our weaknesses and is at least trying to find some solutions, it's just frustrating for us supporters who don't know quite what is happening and having to put up with dross like yesterday. The tide will turn... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, pete101 said: Can't sort out this mess in one window , need to start bedding players in now , think bringing to many faces in during one window sets a team back few months. Players need to settle Cough........Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 It will take bruce a lot longer than 10 games to sort out the players...i said at start of season we would not make the playoffs...i still believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 minute ago, pacbuddies said: Cough........Newcastle. Newcastle could afford to do it as they sold Sissokho and Wijnaldum for £55m and could take a risk or five. Weren't too many clubs knocking on our door to take our "best" players from us and even the main player we sold in Gueye was flogged for pretty much what we paid for him. We had to spend £40m+ just to get a reasonable squad together. Dr. Tony would've had to spend £75m to get us to a play-off level squad. Still hopeful for a triple signing of Hourihane, Lansbury and Bree though. :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600rr Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 i have never heard of some of the players we are linked with. dont know if thats good or bad thing, i guess the club / owner/manager are thinking shall we get the players in for a real crack at promotion next year or fill in the blanks & gamble on the play offs. i think walters of stoke will be a great start, thats the sort of player this team needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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