brummybloke Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Are we jist looling to find faults with players now ? He made less errors under the other way weve been playing. People want a more attacking style of play which invariably means the other team get more chances yet we still have one of the meanest defences. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 At this level he’s okay. Always seems to have a problem when pressured by an attacker, and not sure about his fitness, he was badly out of breath compared to Terry yesterday. If we go up , not sure he would be good enough in the Premiership, he wasn’t good enough for the barcodes at that level. But at the moment along with Terry he’s the best we’ve got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 IF we go up, given the need to sign a lot of players of prem quality, I would think that Chester would be one of the first players on the keep list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The phenomenon of 'players who are too good for the Championship but not good enough for the Premier League' is well understood by most people in the context of strikers, with Dwight Gayle looking like the latest example. But I don't see any reason it can't be extended to CB's, and there must be an argument about Chester in that regard. Certainly in the Premier League you would have to assume that his mistakes in the last two matches would have been punished by goals, rather than embarrassingly poor shots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The phenomenon of 'players who are too good for the Championship but not good enough for the Premier League' is well understood by most people in the context of strikers, with Dwight Gayle looking like the latest example. But I don't see any reason it can't be extended to CB's, and there must be an argument about Chester in that regard. Certainly in the Premier League you would have to assume that his mistakes in the last two matches would have been punished by goals, rather than embarrassingly poor shots. I think Chester probably is good enough (for a bottom half team looking to survive that is), he was solid enough over two seasons at Hull and at West Brom unlucky to be played out of position a lot (left back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, meregreen said: At this level he’s okay. Always seems to have a problem when pressured by an attacker, and not sure about his fitness, he was badly out of breath compared to Terry yesterday. If we go up , not sure he would be good enough in the Premiership, he wasn’t good enough for the barcodes at that level. But at the moment along with Terry he’s the best we’ve got. He didn’t play for Newcastle did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, omariqy said: It's a stat that directly deals with your point about his errors leading to a chance on goal. Basically they really don't. Watch the Brentford 3-0 and Forest 2-1 losses last season. Both games after each other, 3 of the goals were entirely Chester’s fault. These obviously don’t fall into whatever stats you’re looking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Watch the Brentford 3-0 and Forest 2-1 losses last season. Both games after each other, 3 of the goals were entirely Chester’s fault. These obviously don’t fall into whatever stats you’re looking up. I think he's a good player, admittedly I'm biased with also being Welsh. Is he a great player? No. But then that's why we're able to have him. I think he'd walk into any other team in this division. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: I think he's a good player, admittedly I'm biased with also being Welsh. Is he a great player? No. But then that's why we're able to have him. I think he'd walk into any other team in this division. Completely agree. It DOES seem like I’m knocking him, but it’s only for balance sakes. He’s good but not great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2018 If Terry can’t play another season, Chester will be our Captain and CB next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) We are lucky to have him imo. He's a bottom half premier league centre half in ability as he was at Hull and West Brom after all. You can't say some of the defenders at the likes of Watford are better than him. Who knows he could be even better than that if we get some good full backs and another good centre half if promotion is secured. Who knew Wes Morgan had premier league winning defending in him?! Look at Mee and Tarkowski at Burnley. Anyway we need to go up otherwise he'll go. I don't believe he'd hang around for another year at this level. Edited January 21, 2018 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, brummybloke said: Are we jist looling to find faults with players now ? Well we are winning so people need something to complain about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: He didn’t play for Newcastle did he? Could you class WBA as barcodes? More Tesco bags I guess... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, VillaChris said: We are lucky to have him imo. He is a good defender, but we did pay a championship record fee for a defender to get him. Glad to have him, but we aren't lucky to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, meregreen said: At this level he’s okay. Always seems to have a problem when pressured by an attacker, and not sure about his fitness, he was badly out of breath compared to Terry yesterday. Bruce said he was playing with flu yesterday. 4 days off now for the whole squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Bruce said he was playing with flu yesterday. 4 days off now for the whole squad. You see, these are some of the things, we are not always aware of when we make our comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Bruce said he was playing with flu yesterday. 4 days off now for the whole squad. That's interesting. Might well account for why our CB's were (unusually) our weak link yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 If Davi Luiz is regarded a good CB surley James Chester is ?? Most top flight CB’s aren’t that good any more, well their certainly diffrent to the ones i rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 He got stuck at LB for WBA because he played for Pulis and he isn't 6'6'' Also, his fitness? He hasn't missed a league game for us (or even a minute I think) since he signed.. Very good player, comfortably a PL player too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Bruce said he was playing with flu yesterday. 4 days off now for the whole squad. Bogey crap. He might have had a bad cold but if he had flu he would barely be able to get out of bed let alone play in a highly competitive professional sports match. I've told Bruce a million times before not to exaggerate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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