Awol Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 If we leave Europe, it's really bad. They'll snuggle up to the US via the TTIP instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Looks like a majority government. Even better news than before I went to bed, good to see. Just out of interest, why is this such a positive thing? Apologises if you've already explained it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Labour deserve a kicking, but I fear the cost. England has swung to the right. Third place went to a racist party. NHS and environment are ****. Also expect tuition fees to go up again, with no upper limit. If the Referendum happens I think the Tories will tear themselves apart over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) If we leave Europe, it's really bad. Nah, it would be great. The propaganda about lost jobs etc will be exposed as just that in the run up. What matters is that the people get to choose, armed with the facts. The claims of both sides will be tested again and again and an informed choice made. The important point is it will be the electorates choice, whatever the outcome. Edited May 8, 2015 by Awol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 people will vote to stay i think so shouldnt really matter about that cameron has to do it, if he bottles it the tories will get demolished at next electon just like labour have been today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 i think with the EU referendum the main thing will be that a lot of noise will come from people that dont actually bother voting, whereas those that do bother will vote to stay facebook / twitter will be an absolute melting pot of racism and bullshit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The most concerning aspect of this election is the ugly head of nationalism rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted May 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Labour deserve a kicking, but I fear the cost. England has swung to the right. Third place went to a racist party. NHS and environment are ****. Also expect tuition fees to go up again, with no upper limit. I said last night when the exit poll was released that I feel really disconnected with what is happening at the moment. A huge rise in UKIP in terms of votes if not seats and the Tories getting more seats. There has certainly been a shift to the right. I do have some hope that some of this swing to the right is based on the fact that we have a whole generation of people voting who have never seen the Conservatives governing on their own and they have only seen them in opposition or a coalition. There is little doubt that they will now be a different animal without the Lib Dems holding back some of their even more damaging policies that will decimate further our public services and welfare for those most in need. I do honestly believe that many don't realize what they have let themselves in for. Edited May 8, 2015 by markavfc40 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) We're going to get days/weeks/months/years of hearing how it was either the choice of one man as leader of a party or bogus shite about a 'long term economic plan' that have led to the returning of a majority Tory government.If people voted Tory on either of those things guiding their choice (i.e. because they thought Miliband wasn't PM material or because they believed the cock and bull about Tories and the economy) and helped to return the government that we are getting then yes, they are idiots.Such a win for the Tories is a win for 'mediamacro' and the myths of economics that pervade political debate. Edited May 8, 2015 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted May 8, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Voters surrender to their inner bastard 08-05-15 MILLIONS of voters have admitted they are bastards who just want money. Following a close-fought election campaign, the electorate decided the prospect of having money was better than the prospect of not having it. Tom Booker, from Southampton, said: “I like money. I like how it feels in my hands. Labour had some lovely things to say about society, but I don’t actually care about any of that because it’s not money. “I promise I will do nice things with some of the money. I’ll buy Ed Miliband’s autobiography even though I’m going to put it straight in the bin.” Emma Bradford, from Peterborough, said: “They say that politics is ultimately about the economy. And the reason they say that is because it’s **** obvious.” Electoral analyst Carolyn Ryan said: “It seems that voters attuned to seeing through politicians’ lies looked in the mirror and could no longer believe in their own. “Socialism is great in theory, but in practice it’s a massive ball-ache.” http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/voters-surrender-to-their-inner-bastard-2015050898124 Edited May 8, 2015 by choffer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Thats how i felt under labour, when my property was worth peanuts, and lost my job twice. Last five years have been a lot better for me hence why I voted tory. Dont think its doom and gloom like a lot of posters have put on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I do honestly believe that many don't realize what they have let themselves in for.I agree it really is the apocalypse, neither government would be great but with an ageing and increased population something has to change in the NHS for example, it was designed for less people and certainly less old people than it is coping with now. Benefits as well, this needs to be addressed also, perhaps not so black and white but the generations of people just having kids for a living and doing **** all started under Labour. If you can work and are just being lazy you shouldn't get benefits for that. Sweeping i know and certainly not that black and white as a lot of people need the governments help, but a help of a lot are just on the jolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 i think with the EU referendum the main thing will be that a lot of noise will come from people that dont actually bother voting, whereas those that do bother will vote to stay facebook / twitter will be an absolute melting pot of racism and bullshit I think the opposite. I believe that many don't vote in general elections is because there is little difference between the 2 main parties, so whats the point. Also if you live in a safe seat constituency, what's the point in voting? But on a in out referendum there would be a big point, certainly for those who thought they voted for something different last time and also those who have never had a say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The majority must be on surely ?As it seems.What an utterly distressing thing.Why bother? Why bother to exist?What result did you want to see snowy?Some sort of hung parliament, something without a majority for any one party and something without a clear/easy majority for any kind of simple coalition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Spot on post from mark a bit further up. I'm just feeling like I don't belong in this country anymore. Racists, europhobes, bankers and the middle to upper class is what makes up this country it seems. Edited May 8, 2015 by Ingram85 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The most concerning aspect of this election is the ugly head of nationalism rising. In Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 8, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2015 i think with the EU referendum the main thing will be that a lot of noise will come from people that dont actually bother voting, whereas those that do bother will vote to stay facebook / twitter will be an absolute melting pot of racism and bullshit I think the opposite. I believe that many don't vote in general elections is because there is little difference between the 2 main parties, so whats the point. Also if you live in a safe seat constituency, what's the point in voting? But on a in out referendum there would be a big point, certainly for those who thought they voted for something different last time and also those who have never had a say Exactly this. I think the Scottish referendum showed that when people feel like their vote will truly make a difference, they will turn out in huge numbers. With a general election I think too many people feel that either their vote won't matter in terms of it won't effect the result (i.e. if I wanted to vote Green in my constituency it's a wasted vote as they've absolutely no chance of getting the seat). Or if they vote to effect the result (i.e. Labour or Tory) then it doesn't make a difference because they're both as bad as each other. I voted, but my mindset is very much the latter point there. Choosing who to lead the country is like choosing which bloke I want to shag my wife. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Let's see what Cameron can do with a flimsy majority. Well he's already maneuvered brilliantly in a couple of defining moments. Blinder 1: One of the main Lib Dem tenets was for electoral reform. It was widely reported that the Tories agreed to it to get the coalition deal done. Then suddenly the only option in the referendum was Alternative Vote. Even the name makes it sound like a bad idea. Given the choice, Proportional Representation would have been voted in and it would now be a very different election. Blinder 2: When the Scots were getting unruly and got a referendum on independence, 2 days before Cameron got Clegg and Miliband to sign the 'pledge' to give them more power which just about swayed the vote. Then when nothing happened from this pledge the Scots rebelled and became nationalistic again and have now voted SNP in which has taken all of Labour's seats, keeping Conservative and Cameron in place. House of Cards story level stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The most concerning aspect of this election is the ugly head of nationalism rising. In Scotland? And England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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