Popular Post Ingram85 Posted January 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2015 ...attacked by a 4 ft tall man by the name of George dressed as Elvis carrying a document with spelling and grammar mistakes as you walk to the shops If I have a nightmare about that tonight then you're for it! edited to make you sleep better 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Beeb reporting that apparently four of the hostages in the supermarket are dead. Sad news but perhaps inevitable. It must be virtually impossible to save everyone in those circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) FAKE Edited January 9, 2015 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted January 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2015 Bomb threat at Montpellier train station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 That not false no? Jewelers robbery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2015 They got what they wanted - martyrdom Does such a thing really exist? Are there other terrorists sat at home now thinking way to go with the dying? Martyrdom is such an abstract concept. They didn't get away with anything, they are dead. They've ceased as human beings, never to think or feel, never to see, smell or touch, love or hate again. They may think they've "gotten away with it" but we know better don't we? No such a thing doesn't exist as there is no afterlife. However if you program children into ANY faith then you teach them that cognitive dissonance is normal. Once you've achieved that level of abuse some of them become easy to program to other ends. Teach children how to think, not what to think. There is a reason religions are so desperate to get access to our children (and for people to have as many children as possible). I used to drive home every day past a "Christian pre-school playgroup". Never failed to upset and anger me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2015 Shame they couldn't take them alive but I'm also glad it's seemingly over. For now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) I'm sure there's as much intelligence as to the motives and reasoning from other sources as there would have been from taking them alive. We don't seem to have gleaned much from the rigby murderers or the Boston bombers. Edited January 9, 2015 by darrenm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 9, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'd have preferred them alive, I like to see the rule of law followed through, the victory of a society bound by rules and all that - that said, these folks were clearly very happy to open fire on anyone in their way and had enough training to be a threat, they also had nothing to lose - if I'm a French police officer in that situation, getting home to see my family at the end of the day is going to take priority over those principles and I don't think we can blame them for that. It's frightening how small a thing can stop the world, this is three angry human beings, and they've got half the planet nervous and angry. I don't think you can ever prevent angry individuals becoming a danger and I've a horrible feeling that there's a precedent being set for the ways in which displaced, powerless people will demonstrate their anger in the future - I think we'll see more of this, and not just from Islamic groups, but from all sorts of people with grudges of one sort or another. You don't have to be a member of a terrorist group to carry out an attack nowadays, you just have to be a sick angry arsehole with the will to inflict suffering on others for whatever shite you happen to believe in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 You also have to be prepared to die for your anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) These guys had plenty of non-ideological 'previous' - drugs, aggravated assault, etc. Also, unstable childhoods (the brothers grew up in a care home) and it all adds up to sociopath types finding a 'home' in Al Quaeda and the chance to get their fifteen minutes of fame going out in a blaze of glory. The classic "top of the world, ma!" syndrome. I'm quite sure that every terrorist group in the world actively seeks out these damaged, low self-esteem, grudge against the world types as ideal recruitment material. Edited January 9, 2015 by mjmooney 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Angry Young People have always sought an outlet. All that has changed is the demographics of the marginalised, and the cause they turn to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Things are going to get rough in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 9, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2015 Shame they couldn't take them alive and torture them for the next 25 years then torture them some more. Fixed for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 You would think that if they wanted to slip away they would have had plenty of opportunity to do so. Ended probably as they wanted it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Things are going to get rough in France. at somepoint the whole of europe is going to get rough, this problem will worsen in europe and people will not stand for much more of this. its time things changed because there are parts of countries in europe that are being eaten by this cancer and until the problem is dealt with it will spread like cancer does. its getting beyond a joke now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Things are going to get rough in France.at somepoint the whole of europe is going to get rough, this problem will worsen in europe and people will not stand for much more of this. its time things changed because there are parts of countries in europe that are being eaten by this cancer and until the problem is dealt with it will spread like cancer does. its getting beyond a joke now.So how do you think people in Palestine and Syria feel? Because by comparison, this is a spit in a bucket. Edited January 9, 2015 by mjmooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted January 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2015 Things are going to get rough in France.at somepoint the whole of europe is going to get rough, this problem will worsen in europe and people will not stand for much more of this. its time things changed because there are parts of countries in europe that are being eaten by this cancer and until the problem is dealt with it will spread like cancer does. its getting beyond a joke now.So how do you think people in Palestine and Syria feel? Shi'ite 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Anonymous have released a video threatening ISIS and Al Qaeda. Would be cool if they could cripple their online output that they rely on so much http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11335676/Hacktivists-Anonymous-says-it-will-avenge-Charlie-Hebdo-attacks-by-shutting-down-jihadist-websites.html Edited January 9, 2015 by Wainy316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Things are going to get rough in France. at somepoint the whole of europe is going to get rough, this problem will worsen in europe and people will not stand for much more of this. its time things changed because there are parts of countries in europe that are being eaten by this cancer and until the problem is dealt with it will spread like cancer does. its getting beyond a joke now. So how do you think people in Palestine and Syria feel? Because by comparison, this is a spit in a bucket. mooney i sympaphise with that situation, its wrong whats going on out there. our countries have helped create this problem even though if we had not i would still say we would be having this situation but why should the people of europe have to put up with this even though our countries have added fuel to the fire. Edited January 9, 2015 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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