Villastine Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) well looks like he won't be loaned out until Benteke is back. I have not seen anything from him to suggest he coudl make it as a Premier Legue striker. To be fair though he has not had much of a chance. A loan would be a good option for him to show he has improved since joining Villa. Edited September 25, 2013 by Villastine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 He had a shot against Ipswich last season, I remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Strange signing, not good enough for this level. I kind of think he was purchased as some sort of Gabby back up. I remember Gabby was injured against West Ham and Bowery came in and played in his position. Would rather see Helenius get more minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 He looked quite Gabby-like against Ipswich to be fair. Hasn't since... Should've been sold or loaned out in the summer really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 This is the one signing that baffled me at the time and still does. His stats at the time of buying were not great, and I have seen nothing yet to suggest that he is good enough for the Premiership. Do not want to be unfair on him as he puts in plenty of effort and hopefully he might be able to forge a decent career in the lower divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 He was a 1 in 10 man in league 2, bizarre signing. No logic at all and you wonder what it's all about ?? Talk about random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 although im sure most of us appreciate the purchasing and developing of young players, the flip of the coin is when buying young players, were hindering the progression of our own, maybe ours arent good enough? but even still, this is still a strange buy, whether he came good or not, when at the time, we have drennan and burke waiting in the wings as for drennan, im intereted in seeing him play, a left footer i believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 When he came on yesterday I was a bit baffled.. He seems to have decent control to be fair to the guy, but he's not very quick, looks a little bit clumsy with the ball at his feet and isn't positionally very good.. Which, unfortunately means... He's ineffective imo. He'd do alright in the championship I think, but you could get worse squad players.. I don't know really, it's a really weird one isn't it? I wonder what Lambert was hoping for when he signed him? I suppose the only good thing is, is that we'll probably make a profit on him, seeing as he's now played in the premiership and done okay. He did pretty well against Stoke last year to get an assist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsthismalarky Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I've always thought Lambert brought him in to add a bit more height and muscle to the team against the more physical sides. He started against west ham and stoke last season and we won both. Throwing him on against Tottenham was a bad idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 He's terrible, but I don't mind Lambert, or the club gambling for the 50k-200k we signed him for for. Just a wild stab in the dark, which if doesn't pay off, won't matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) He's definitely quick, just not when the ball is anywhere near him (he is tripping over it) and he hasn't got much in the way of speed of thought. Not hurting anyone particularly, he was cheap, gets paid peanuts and has some league know how. When he plays it is to do a job, work hard, provide some pace and get up and down. There is nobody from below who can and will do that, only perhaps Albrighton who has been injured. Grealish, Graham etc aren't going to come into the side and perform a discliplined roll in the same way, although both are considerably better players. Edited September 26, 2013 by AndyClarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 League 2 standard player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 League 2 standard player. Yep he shouldn't be anywhere near our first team squad, You get the feeling about certain players that leave you totally underwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) ....Not up to the standard. Don't know all the facts, but when a club lets Sturridge go from the academy and then go on in future years to sign Bowery...it starts to ask a few questions with regards to talent spotting. Ps but still agree with us trying to sign young hungry players. Edited September 27, 2013 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 ....Not up to the standard. Don't know all the facts, but when a club lets Sturridge go from the academy and then go on in future years to sign Bowery...it starts to ask a few questions with regards to talent spotting. Ps but still agree with us trying to sign young hungry players. TRO I am not sure that point regarding Sturridge is really fair is it. The game is littered with instances of players being let go and then making it big elsewhere. The one that always springs to mind for me is Platt who Man Utd let go and he went on to have a very successful career. As for Bowery for the 350k we paid it was worth a gamble I guess and he may still come good. I think when money is tight, as it unfortuantely is, you have to hope that you can shop in the bargain basements/lower league and to unearth the odd gem. Lowton was 900k and looks a good buy, Westwood under 2 mill and likewise looks a good buy. If for 350k, and I'd imagine around 5k a week, Bowery turns out to not work out then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 ....Not up to the standard. Don't know all the facts, but when a club lets Sturridge go from the academy and then go on in future years to sign Bowery...it starts to ask a few questions with regards to talent spotting. Ps but still agree with us trying to sign young hungry players. TRO I am not sure that point regarding Sturridge is really fair is it. The game is littered with instances of players being let go and then making it big elsewhere. The one that always springs to mind for me is Platt who Man Utd let go and he went on to have a very successful career. As for Bowery for the 350k we paid it was worth a gamble I guess and he may still come good. I think when money is tight, as it unfortuantely is, you have to hope that you can shop in the bargain basements/lower league and to unearth the odd gem. Lowton was 900k and looks a good buy, Westwood under 2 mill and likewise looks a good buy. If for 350k, and I'd imagine around 5k a week, Bowery turns out to not work out then so be it. Fair point, mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 ....Not up to the standard. Don't know all the facts, but when a club lets Sturridge go from the academy and then go on in future years to sign Bowery...it starts to ask a few questions with regards to talent spotting. Ps but still agree with us trying to sign young hungry players. TRO I am not sure that point regarding Sturridge is really fair is it. The game is littered with instances of players being let go and then making it big elsewhere. The one that always springs to mind for me is Platt who Man Utd let go and he went on to have a very successful career. As for Bowery for the 350k we paid it was worth a gamble I guess and he may still come good. I think when money is tight, as it unfortuantely is, you have to hope that you can shop in the bargain basements/lower league and to unearth the odd gem. Lowton was 900k and looks a good buy, Westwood under 2 mill and likewise looks a good buy. If for 350k, and I'd imagine around 5k a week, Bowery turns out to not work out then so be it. Lowton was 3 million, but even at that price I think we saw enough last season to suggest he should prove a good buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 He wasn't. Lambert said the media massively inflated the fees we paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The thing about Bowery is we may not have lost much financially but are we wasting valuable time and effort with him when someone else could be given an opportunity. I just cant see him making it at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 350k will buy you a nice semi in either solihull or Sutton or a 2004 Sunseeker. When you put it like that, Bowery looks an insane waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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