TRO Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Tim Sherwood is not going to fix the ills of this football club that has been going on for years.....in one window....Gabby will be one of his lieutenants irrespective of his form, whether we like it or not. He has lost 3 players that have been with the club some time and form that stability that we require to function ....he can't afford to lose many more of that ilk. blimey, it could be argued that Bournemouth/Watford/Norwich have gained promotion to this league, most of our players have been bought in......Aston Villa are an established Premier league CLUB....Aston Villa are not an established Premier League TEAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The young players look up to him here so in defence of Sherwood I can see some logic to his points. I remember last season Grealish set up a goal and he straight away went away to celebrate with Gabby who was a sub, think it was West Ham game. So if the future saviour of Aston Villa respects him that's good enough for me. Also mixing up team captain with club captain. Club captain's don't always play but are more respected figures around the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 It's good to see the manager try to lift a player who must be at a pretty low ebb at the moment - good management. I think it was bad management to make him club captain in the first place. Sherwood put himself in a situation in which Gabby has suddenly become more important than he was, and now "ows" him more playing time than he normally would. If Gabby really is a leader (which I don't think he is) then he doesn't need that title, either you make him captain or you just let him lead as "lieutenants" do in every other club. If he isn't, you simply don't make him club captain. This way Sherwood gave an important role to one of our poorest players (certainly among those playin in attacking positions) and would look a bit foolish for not playing him. I'd have to disagree, I don't think this has anything to do with the club captaincy and I certainly don't think the manager would be influenced by that in terms of who he picks for the team. I think Gabby has taken an awful lot of stick, being the subject of the local paper two days in a week and insulted just about everywhere that people are able to add a comment must be difficult to live with for someone who's spent his whole life working for the club. I think it's bound to have had an effect and I think it's good management when the manager tries to lift someone who potentially will have a big say in how our season goes. As to weather the manager will play him on the basis of his club captaincy, it also depends on what has been agreed by them, so it's really hard for us to say. I still think it was unnecessary (if not counter productive) to appoint him club captain. As to defending him, I agree, a manager should defend his players from abuse. I hope that this abuse will however make Sherwood consider if Gabby is indeed good enough to start. In other words, I hope it's just talk, and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 2, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2015 It's good to see the manager try to lift a player who must be at a pretty low ebb at the moment - good management. I think it was bad management to make him club captain in the first place. Sherwood put himself in a situation in which Gabby has suddenly become more important than he was, and now "ows" him more playing time than he normally would. If Gabby really is a leader (which I don't think he is) then he doesn't need that title, either you make him captain or you just let him lead as "lieutenants" do in every other club. If he isn't, you simply don't make him club captain. This way Sherwood gave an important role to one of our poorest players (certainly among those playin in attacking positions) and would look a bit foolish for not playing him. On the contrary. I think making him "club captain" was a huge indication that he'll be playing a lot less this season. If Sherwood planned to play him more he'd have made him the actual captain. What he's done, is give Gabby an ambassadorial role at the club. He's basically motivating him to be a senior figure and a role model to the other players whilst acknowledging that he probably won't be getting as much game time this season. However we feel about Gabby's ability, players and managers have said time and time again that he's a big character in the dressing room. When you add to that he's now a senior player and our longest serving player, Sherwood is simply harnessing that character and experience whilst not obliging himself to play him every week (which is what would have happened if he gave him the actual captain's role) I really don't see why people have such a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Massive season for him now that we didn't sign another striker. We are going to need him to start scoring some goals regularly. He needs to prove all the doubters wrong and repay the faith that those who believe in him have had. Edited September 2, 2015 by Morley_crosses_to_Withe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Massive season for him now that we didn't sign another striker. We are going to need him to start scoring some goals regularly. Well, we need somebody to score goals. A few players actually. Not necessarily Gabby. Edited September 2, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 That's true, but he's our senior striker now. He's the one with all the PL experience. I think needs to weigh in with a decent chunk of our goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It's good to see the manager try to lift a player who must be at a pretty low ebb at the moment - good management. I think it was bad management to make him club captain in the first place. Sherwood put himself in a situation in which Gabby has suddenly become more important than he was, and now "ows" him more playing time than he normally would. If Gabby really is a leader (which I don't think he is) then he doesn't need that title, either you make him captain or you just let him lead as "lieutenants" do in every other club. If he isn't, you simply don't make him club captain. This way Sherwood gave an important role to one of our poorest players (certainly among those playin in attacking positions) and would look a bit foolish for not playing him. On the contrary. I think making him "club captain" was a huge indication that he'll be playing a lot less this season. If Sherwood planned to play him more he'd have made him the actual captain. What he's done, is give Gabby an ambassadorial role at the club. He's basically motivating him to be a senior figure and a role model to the other players whilst acknowledging that he probably won't be getting as much game time this season. However we feel about Gabby's ability, players and managers have said time and time again that he's a big character in the dressing room. When you add to that he's now a senior player and our longest serving player, Sherwood is simply harnessing that character and experience whilst not obliging himself to play him every week (which is what would have happened if he gave him the actual captain's role) I really don't see why people have such a problem with it. That's what I thought as well, but so far Gabby seemed to be the most "untouchable" of all our attacking players. I know't it's just 4 games into the season, but I (slightly) worry that we might actually see much more of Gabby than we all expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shomin Geki Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 When people were clamouring for Sherwood to work his 'Benteke Magic' on the seemingly incoming Adebayor, nobody, it seems, was thinking Tim could do the same thing with Gabby. Because if anybody needs to sort his head out and redouble his efforts it's this guy. Surrounded by an instant posse of startling talent will Agbonlahor finally knuckle down and become something like the force he is capable of being? Because he won't last long here if he doesn't... I suspect he's lost that loving feeling. Whether it's in his increasingly bulky body, or his perpetually dense head, I'm not too sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sherwood didn't make Benteke and Adebayor brilliant players, he gave them both confidence by praising them in public and presumably behind the scenes, and then building the respective attacks all around those players so that they got more chances than previously. Gabby is a different proposition - he's not a great striker suffering a slight dip in confidence, he's a deeply average striker suffering a huge dip in confidence, as witnessed on social media recently. Gabby does generally try hard, but you can't be better than your maximum potential, and sadly I think he's already at his potential. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 He's just made the Paddy Power ordinary allstars. The shame. According to them he has got more cards than goals since 2010. 27 goals 28 cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 According to the avfc website he has recovered does that mean we might see the bird brain make an appearance against Leicester?http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4991960,00.html"Gabby Agbonlahor has also recovered from his bout of sickness"NOOOOOOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 According to the avfc website he has recovered does that mean we might see the bird brain make an appearance against Leicester? http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4991960,00.html "Gabby Agbonlahor has also recovered from his bout of sickness" NOOOOOOOOOO nothing like getting behind the boys before a big weekend eh? I'm sure encouraging support like this will get him back to his best 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Massive season for him now that we didn't sign another striker. We are going to need him to start scoring some goals regularly. He needs to prove all the doubters wrong and repay the faith that those who believe in him have had.I think he will. I also think a lot of fans have made their mind up about him no matter how well he plays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2015 Massive season for him now that we didn't sign another striker. We are going to need him to start scoring some goals regularly. He needs to prove all the doubters wrong and repay the faith that those who believe in him have had.I think he will. I also think a lot of fans have made their mind up about him no matter how well he plays."No matter how well he plays" - is my sarcasm detector not working??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Massive season for him now that we didn't sign another striker. We are going to need him to start scoring some goals regularly. He needs to prove all the doubters wrong and repay the faith that those who believe in him have had.I think he will. I also think a lot of fans have made their mind up about him no matter how well he plays.Nobody would be happier than me if he started banging them in, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncb Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Massive season for him now that we didn't sign another striker. We are going to need him to start scoring some goals regularly. He needs to prove all the doubters wrong and repay the faith that those who believe in him have had.I think he will. I also think a lot of fans have made their mind up about him no matter how well he plays.Nobody would be happier than me if he started banging them in, trust me. I'd be **** delighted as I've seen him at his best. Just never has the consistency for this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted September 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2015 after all the negativity that will boil up in this forum in next few hours, well Gabby had a really good game and no coincidence the ball never stuck when Gabby went off 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Eh it wasn't Gabbys worse performance and not his best but the ball was hardly sticking to Gabby either. Nice run and pass for the goal though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 He played well but had to subbed, he looked absolutely dead on his feet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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