Fight Like Lions Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 48 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Maybe - unless it's just an improved cash deal for the remainder of his current contract. I'm really intrigued what they come up with I think our new owners have already proved they are more shrewd than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Mic09 said: Maybe - unless it's just an improved cash deal for the remainder of his current contract. What would the point of offering an improved salary without any increased protection for the club, such as extending the length of his contract so Jack can’t leave for free in 22 months? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) Double post. Edited August 14, 2018 by brommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, brommy said: What would the point of offering an improved salary without any increased protection for the club, such as extending the length of his contract so Jack can’t leave for free in 22 months? The fact that Jack wanted to go back in the summer but wasn't allowed to do so by the club - and might have agreed to stay this season based on higher earnings. I have no idea, just speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Mic09 said: The fact that Jack wanted to go back in the summer but wasn't allowed to do so by the club - and might have agreed to stay this season based on higher earnings. I have no idea, just speculating. The club would be crazy to do anything like that. If a clause has been put in, it will be on a new and extended contract. I’d hope it’s a non-promotion type clause too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mic09 said: The fact that Jack wanted to go back in the summer but wasn't allowed to do so by the club - and might have agreed to stay this season based on higher earnings. I have no idea, just speculating. Ultimately all of our speculating will remain unconfirmed. Fortunately our current speculation can be light hearted because Jack is still our player. In my opinion, the club (especially with the new owners) will have trusted that Jack wouldn’t submit a transfer request and wouldn’t go on strike over the club turning down what they considered to be a derisory bid(s). I therefore believe the club will be offering a much increased salary based on extending the length of his contract BUT with the ‘protection’ for Jack’s career of a reasonable release clause. Of course many Villa fans may think ‘reasonable’ would be £40m or £50m, but I doubt Jack and his advisers would agree to that. Better to keep Jack for this season and guarantee £25m or £30m for him next summer than Jack not signing a new contract and leaving for free 12 months later. Obviously we’d all rather he stayed for the next decade and helped Villa to success! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 hours ago, brommy said: Ultimately all of our speculating will remain unconfirmed. Fortunately our current speculation can be light hearted because Jack is still our player. In my opinion, the club (especially with the new owners) will have trusted that Jack wouldn’t submit a transfer request and wouldn’t go on strike over the club turning down what they considered to be a derisory bid(s). I therefore believe the club will be offering a much increased salary based on extending the length of his contract BUT with the ‘protection’ for Jack’s career of a reasonable release clause. Of course many Villa fans may think ‘reasonable’ would be £40m or £50m, but I doubt Jack and his advisers would agree to that. Better to keep Jack for this season and guarantee £25m or £30m for him next summer than Jack not signing a new contract and leaving for free 12 months later. Obviously we’d all rather he stayed for the next decade and helped Villa to success! I don’t think anyone has a problem by a release clause of 30m if we don’t go up. But the issue is if that clause works even if we went up! I think as long as we’re in the right way we could keep him. I mean going up, show some ambition. I think taking it step by step is the right way. I doubt the club would put a clause unless its for us failing to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 SSN showing footage of the lads getting off the bus, Jack shows up so Jim White had to say, “Jack Grealish never got the move in wanted in the summer, he is here tonight”. Can we all move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 hours ago, abdulaziz1 said: I don’t think anyone has a problem by a release clause of 30m if we don’t go up. But the issue is if that clause works even if we went up! I think as long as we’re in the right way we could keep him. I mean going up, show some ambition. I think taking it step by step is the right way. I doubt the club would put a clause unless its for us failing to go up. I agree and hopefully we will go up and Jack won’t be interested in going to another club. However, suppose Jack and his advisers refuse to sign a new contract unless it has a £25m release clause that applies whatever division Villa are in. Do we keep him on his current contract and risk losing him for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, deeps said: SSN showing footage of the lads getting off the bus, Jack shows up so Jim White had to say, “Jack Grealish never got the move in wanted in the summer, he is here tonight”. Can we all move on? Not for a considerable amount of time, unfortunately. Jack was linked with one of the sports media darlings; if he’d have been linked Premier League clubs like Burnley or Bournemouth, the media would have moved on already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 He was a level above everyone else tonight. Every attacking move goes through him. If a team manages to mark him effectively (or if he's injured) we're useless going forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffer85 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, LxYoungAVFC said: He was a level above everyone else tonight. Every attacking move goes through him. If a team manages to mark him effectively (or if he's injured) we're useless going forward. Hopefully that's where mcginn steps up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted August 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2018 mentioned in the match day thread thats why you cant judge him on stats, another game where he's head and shoulders above everyone else, involved in 2 of our best moments in the game but statistically done nothing james maddison can score the same tap in as hourihane and wrack up some really impressive figures, he cannot play that pass to kodjia, im not sure dele alli can play that pass to kodjia 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 He's always a class or two above the rest. Worth watching Villa just to see Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 8 hours ago, brommy said: Not for a considerable amount of time, unfortunately. Jack was linked with one of the sports media darlings; if he’d have been linked Premier League clubs like Burnley or Bournemouth, the media would have moved on already. Yup. We wont be forgiven for keeping him, probably ever. Goes against the narrative they have constructed. Wait ill January when spurs will have inevitablely disappointed (because they arent that good) and so this will get legs all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 6 hours ago, villa4europe said: mentioned in the match day thread thats why you cant judge him on stats, another game where he's head and shoulders above everyone else, involved in 2 of our best moments in the game but statistically done nothing james maddison can score the same tap in as hourihane and wrack up some really impressive figures, he cannot play that pass to kodjia, im not sure dele alli can play that pass to kodjia Quite funny how often people point to stats to try and degrade him. Absolute Rolls Royce. It's nice and easy to pinpoint those who either don't understand the game, or don't watch Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2018 He's a cut above anything in the league we're in. It's purely ridiculous to suggest that we would be a better team without him in it, even if last seasons stats do point to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I don't know if anyone else spotted it last night but he did something truly bizarre, I wasn't sure it wasn't my mind playing tricks on me until I watched it back. He picked up the ball, looked up, analyzed what was happening in front of him, saw the run and played the ball into that space. Truly revolutionary stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted August 15, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) Love the way most of his passes are perfectly weighted. Has a better all round game than Deli Ali and should be picked for the England squad now. Edited August 15, 2018 by striker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 hour ago, striker said: Love the way most of his passes are perfectly weighted. Has a better all round game than Deli Ali and should be picked for the England squad now. The longer he stays away from England the better for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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