MotoMkali Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: im sorry the last line doesnt make sense, we need to move McGinn on before we lose him? After we lose him. Only reason at this point to still have McGinn is he is Jack's friend. That's it. He isn't good enough for where we want to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nick76 Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gillz said: Obviously don't want him to go - and will be gutted if he did - But can we just appreciate something for a minutes..... Our local lad Jack could potentially be a the highest ever English transfer, the highest ever PL player even. Not bad for a kid from Solihull He's an absolute superstar, whatever happens. Who cares! Anything outside of Villa is irrelevant 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: No wonder it's nearly eight quid a gallon. Very good sir, very good indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: No wonder it's nearly eight quid a gallon. Double post, kin VT, fvck. Edited July 31, 2021 by Phil Silvers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: The same way Liverpool (they were just Top4 year before and sold Coutinho in January the following year and still managed to maintain Top 4) Spurs (Bale) Leicester (Mahrez, Kante) Have managed to get back into the Top 4 or maintain their progression at some point after losing great players. Leicester haven't gotten close to winning the league since selling Kante. Spurs didn't strengthen themselves with any of the money they got from bale apart from Eriksen who was still worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: No wonder it's nearly eight quid a gallon. ******* treble post, for gawd sake Rodney Edited July 31, 2021 by Phil Silvers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, beachboys1 said: we wont nget anyone like that without jackl Yes we will. We are still a mid table PL club, with masses of cash and a plan to challenge for Europe. Still very attractive to most players even without Jack. But in any case, I still think he is going to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Just now, HalfTimePost said: The same way Liverpool (they were just Top4 year before and sold Coutinho in January the following year and still managed to maintain Top 4) Spurs (Bale) Leicester (Mahrez, Kante) Have managed to get back into the Top 4 or maintain their progression at some point after losing great players. You are forgetting a key thing. With the exception of Leicester those teams had the benefit of champions League income before selling these players, we have never played in it. If we sell Grealish we get alot of money, but the values of replacements triple as a result. As we haven't got them in before selling. So FFP will screw us again. We can't get into Europe by selling our best players, and when we do sell we have to spend more then value to replace. Some are caught in an endless cycle. Yes Leicester were anomaly, which at best we can hope to replicate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Villa twitter is a right embarrassment at the moment. No joke, some of our fans are looking like pathetic Arsenal fans, doom and gloom and constant whinging about how this will seal our fate and blah blah blah 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 Just now, Rob182 said: Villa twitter is a right embarrassment at the moment. No joke, some of our fans are looking like pathetic Arsenal fans, doom and gloom and constant whinging about how this will seal our fate and blah blah blah Yeah it's a bit tragic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Could we just take Jack to the Winchester? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: Having wealthy owners hasn't been enough to keep Grealish. So what will change? I cannot see how we can push forwards selling our best players all the time. And no this isn't a dig at the owners they have been excellent. This isn't their choice. How are we supposed to get into the top 4 by weakening the team You don't know that. I mean if the Owners decision is to sell Grealish maybe they are seeing something we and the Shitty prats over at Bluemoon are not. Maybe they see his injury as something that could spike and he becomes useless in a season or twos time, maybe Jack sees that as well and they've decided to pull of a heist on City lol. There certainly is nothing against selling an injury prone player to a club for a fortune right?? There could be many reason as to why the club decides to give into selling Jack. Maybe it's the right time that Smith feels the Villa Squad needs to breathe without Jack and that they can do without all that expectation on the players as soon as Jack is injured. I certainly think our Owners if they want to tie Jack down for longer could regardless of what city offer. I still think there's a kicker coming and Jack will say no and our Owners will say no. Imagine Jack as a City player, see less ball, doesn't get fouled as much, anywhere near and it is a stat and half to be top of. Jack won't be an assist king like he is at Villa in fact in every area of Jack amazing play because of city's other quality players Jack will be shown to be a weakened player who doesn't make things happen like he does at Villa. Jack will just be another player who is used here and there and that Jack wont see as much of the ball like he does at Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: This is the truth. If we sell Jack. We aren't competing for Europe for a long time. We also need to massively upgrade our midfield and move McGinn on if we lose him as well. With our present team WITH Jack in it......We are equally not guaranteed to make European football....there are too many what if's If Bailey comes in @ £35 mill and tears it up....we have another £65 mill to plug some gaps. What if Jack has another bout of his shin Problem.....some unemotionally attached fans could say, with that injury looming, I would snap their hands off at £100 mill......but are we sure they have offered that in cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjacobjr Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gillz said: Obviously don't want him to go - and will be gutted if he did - But can we just appreciate something for a minutes..... Our local lad Jack could potentially be a the highest ever English transfer, the highest ever PL player even. Not bad for a kid from Solihull He's an absolute superstar, whatever happens. Who gives a crap great player for us but he could have been a absolute legend with the club that will be tarnished now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: So if Grealish leaves in a few days you will no longer feel the need to tell me to get a grip? If he doesn't leave then great. The fact remains about selling players when we are at our strongest and never being able to compete though. It's happened before, the cycle needs to end. The cycle won't end. Barca have had Messi (!) Linked away atleast the last 3 summers. Barca/Real have had the likes of Figo move across the divide. Madrid lost CR7 Man Utd had fans turn up at Rooneys house with flares and balaclavas because he might move to City. They've lost Beckham, Ronaldo, Stam Liverpool have lost Torres, Suarez, Coutinho. Came so close to losing Gerrard. Chelsea have lost Hazard, struggled to even keep Hudson-Odoi Arsenal have lost Nasri, RVP, Henry, Adebayor, Cole. The cycle won't end. It's what you do after you lose a great player. Previously we've bottled it. Now we have another chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rob182 said: Villa twitter is a right embarrassment at the moment. No joke, some of our fans are looking like pathetic Arsenal fans, doom and gloom and constant whinging about how this will seal our fate and blah blah blah Football attracts the very worst of society and naturally we have our share. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben1505 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, Lord Willard said: You expecting him to be wearing all black and crying or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Leicester haven't gotten close to winning the league since selling Kante. Spurs didn't strengthen themselves with any of the money they got from bale apart from Eriksen who was still worse. To be fair Leicester should never have gotten near winning the league anyway. But they still lost a lot of key players. Even since, Maguire? And have kept progressing. Spurs have continued to be in or around the CL though. It can be done. The point is it doesn't mean we're suddenly in a relegation battle. Which is what PF had said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Follyfoot said: IF the Grealish bid is accepted by Villa... Guardiola will have spent £918m on transfers since he joined Man City in 2016 Fraudiola. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmix Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, HalfTimePost said: The cycle won't end. Barca have had Messi (!) Linked away atleast the last 3 summers. Barca/Real have had the likes of Figo move across the divide. Madrid lost CR7 Man Utd had fans turn up at Rooneys house with flares and balaclavas because he might move to City. They've lost Beckham, Ronaldo, Stam Liverpool have lost Torres, Suarez, Coutinho. Came so close to losing Gerrard. Chelsea have lost Hazard, struggled to even keep Hudson-Odoi Arsenal have lost Nasri, RVP, Henry, Adebayor, Cole. The cycle won't end. It's what you do after you lose a great player. Previously we've bottled it. Now we have another chance. Arsenal have lost Martinez https://gfycat.com/academicfearlessgallowaycow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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