birdman Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, TRO said: Seems like the Bailey deal won't be progressed, until this is sorted out. We've just agreed terms with Bailey subject to a medical Oi Oi!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Bailey signing must surely give him something very very serious to think about. I'm sure our owners have the negotiating skills necessary to convince him to stay! If playing alongside Bailey and Buendia isn't enough to convince him of our ambitions, he can do one. Won't get any recognition from me as a legend and will not care a single iota how he gets on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, TRO said: Seems like the Bailey deal won't be progressed, until this is sorted out. We’ve just agreed a deal with his club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pissflaps said: So you don't think the same will happen again next summer? Say Martinez, Konsa, Watkins etc? We are stuck in catch 22. We want to progress but hit a glass ceiling because anytime we get a decent player or two they get taken away and back down the league we go. It's happened numerous times, again are you denying any of what I said isn't true? Therefore what I have said isn't dramatic, just straight to the point and accurate. Sadly. We have to be quicker at spotting and recruiting talent, than losing it.....its not rocket science....and I think we are going down that route, gradually. In the past, owners have banked it and not reinvested, that doesn't seem the case now., with their recruitment, development.....The trick is overall, (not one transfer), is to recruit better than what you lose, eventually you will grow Jack is an exception, we won't recruit better than Jack like for like......Leicester have done it very well, so have West Ham to a degree....Wolves shows what happens when the pace of recruitment slows down. what if Bailey comes in and we score more goals as result....what then?.....it could happen. Edited July 31, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Watkins Bailey Grealish Buendia What a frontline this could have been. Just give us one more season Jack! Edited July 31, 2021 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, birdman said: We've just agreed terms with Bailey subject to a medical Oi Oi!! with Bailey, not BL...to my knowledge. what confuses you?....unless I am unaware of us agreeing a Transfer Fee with Bayer Leverkusen. Edited July 31, 2021 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidSidSidSid Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Digavilla said: Yes that’s true. If our owners are really ambitious and not the Lerner/Doug etc , top up another 20m and bid 120m for Foden. Of course he wouldn’t come but as long as there’s a official bid , it shows we are not the pushover Villa of past , and will improve the morale of the team as well . I don't see how doing something that would turn our club into a laughing stock would improve morale, tbh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: We’ve just agreed a deal with his club? On the fee?....what have we agreed to pay then?, perhaps you have slicker info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRO said: On the fee?....what have we agreed to pay then?, perhaps you have slicker info. Check the avfc website matey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRO said: On the fee?....what have we agreed to pay then?, perhaps you have slicker info. The club announced we've agreed terms with BL on the transfer, and need to finalise terms with Bailey. Why would Grealish situation hold up that agreement of terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRO said: On the fee?....what have we agreed to pay then?, perhaps you have slicker info. It’s on the OS mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJay Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) The fact that we've just announced officially that we've reached an agreement for a price with Leverkusen for Bailey says to me a deal for Jack still hasn't been reached or accepted. Edited July 31, 2021 by VillaJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, thabucks said: Check the avfc website matey This. Wonderful notification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovenian Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 super jack still in dubrovnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catanzaro Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: My take... The timelines are different. Jack needs / wants Champions League football now, in the peak of his career. Villa do too, but we're a decade behind City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool. An NBA team who gets first pick in the draft, generally does so because they were the worst team the previous year. The first pick might be a generational talent, who wants to win it all. Realistically it will take that team a long time to build a roster around him to be able to compete with the mainstays of the league. We can't move forward as fast as Jack needs us too. Our progress has been phenomenal since NSWE came in, but this step up now to consistent European football will be the hardest and take the longest. Jack doesn't have the same amount of time to waste. If he goes, I dont blame him. We're both on upward trajectories, his is just faster than ours. Chukwumeka, Ramsey x 2, Barry and Bidace might be the right players, at the right time, to grow with us. Not out grow us. Time will tell. Great post in my opinion.. I think that Villa have been thinking along these lines from the start of the NSWE ownership, hence buying up as many 18 - 20 year old talent hoping that some of them will stick and become great together.. If he goes and we get 100M then I hope that we spend a proportion of the money on the same strategy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, Corleone said: It didnt stop the Likes of Phillips / Rice playing nearly every minute despite not playing for "Elite" clubs and it also didnt stop the likes of Chilwell / Foden / James hardly featuring at all despite only recently having played in the CL Final (you can throw Sancho into the mix as well) Sure, but at the end of the day 8/10 outfield players were from ManU, Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham or Arsenal. Rice and Philips got a look in because England don’t have any other defensive mids at the top clubs. Literally all the players you mentioned didn’t play because their position was already filled by someone from the Big 6; Shaw, Saka and Walker. What’s your point? Literally all the players you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, av1 said: It’s on the OS mate Oh Thanks....Great News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, slovenian said: super jack still in dubrovnik Laughing at people thinking hes actually joining Man city. Right? right???????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbdrum88 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Everyone going on this is the jack money being spent, is no one looking at the bucks/eden/swaris and rather then being negative. Perhaps thinking Jack said will I win things at villa and the owners creating a team to make him think I can win stuff here to keep him. Maybe man city got his attention so the owners put a mad contract and agreed a point to prove signing to entice him to stay not to replace him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 So according to the Express Grealish will ask for a transfer when he returns on Monday. If he does that then he goes down so far in my estimations and look forward to Matty Cash hurting him on his return to VP. Don't expect a friendly welcome Jack. If he felt like this he could have given the club 2 months to get players in and prepared for the new season. He can f@#k off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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