nick76 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Pissflaps said: Having wealthy owners hasn't been enough to keep Grealish. We don’t know that yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Steve Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 It’s the media pushing Jack to City, not us. They wouldn’t dream of writing such content about us when pursuing our transfer targets. We were painted as being second-choice for Buendia. They’d never write that Southampton are expected to accept our offer for JWP. They are insulted that an ambitious and wealthy Villa don’t know their place. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: So you don't think the same will happen again next summer? Say Martinez, Konsa, Watkins etc? We are stuck in catch 22. We want to progress but hit a glass ceiling because anytime we get a decent player or two they get taken away and back down the league we go. It's happened numerous times, again are you denying any of what I said isn't true? Therefore what I have said isn't dramatic, just straight to the point and accurate. Sadly. Yes I've said as much in the Lange and Watkins threads. I think there is a huge risk Watkins and Ezri are wanted next summer. Watkins in particular and specifically to Arsenal. If he goes there's a risk next summer for sure. But we have a few weeks and a whole season to ensure we progress again and therefore reduce the number of clubs that can poach that talent. And yeah I'm denying it's true because it hasn't happened yet. And yes it is dramatic because, again, it hasn't happened yet. Get a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, mickjacobjr said: The silence from the club is deafing shows only one thing Jack is going end of story he don’t believe in the club anyway more I don’t think that’s why they’re being quiet. Apparently he arrived back in the UK yesterday so I think they want to sit down and talk to him first and see if there’s any hope of him signing our deal. I doubt he will but the club won’t be able to say anything either way yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Pissflaps said: Having wealthy owners hasn't been enough to keep Grealish. So what will change? I cannot see how we can push forwards selling our best players all the time. And no this isn't a dig at the owners they have been excellent. This isn't their choice. How are we supposed to get into the top 4 by weakening the team This is the truth. If we sell Jack. We aren't competing for Europe for a long time. We also need to massively upgrade our midfield and move McGinn on if we lose him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Agree The question is do those players come to a Villa without grealish? IMO yes. So, Are you suggesting they are not aware of Buendia, Mings, Martinez, Traore, Watkins.McGinn, not to mention Young falling over his boot laces to come, he must know Jacks situation....most of our team are internationals too. Martinez is edging towards one the best goal keepers in the world.....We have hoovered up one of the best academies in the country ( spare a thought for them, during our disappointment) and our own academy is bursting with potential. We have increasingly documented owners of serious wealth....We have plans to significantly increase capacity, with c15,000 season tickets on the waiting list. We have every reason to feel in the pink and other players we are after will know this.....have you ever thought a target of ours might think how can I get game time with Jack there...it could work in reverse. I do see the positive side of the money Jack will have generated for us, I really do. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, mickjacobjr said: The silence from the club is deafing shows only one thing Jack is going end of story he don’t believe in the club anyway more So what your basically saying is Jack left last season, the season before that and the season before that because Villa were quiet then and never said a word till a new contract was put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chappy Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 Crazy that Josh Onomah is worth £97m 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, HalfTimePost said: Yes I've said as much in the Lange and Watkins threads. I think there is a huge risk Watkins and Ezri are wanted next summer. Watkins in particular and specifically to Arsenal. If he goes there's a risk next summer for sure. But we have a few weeks and a whole season to ensure we progress again and therefore reduce the number of clubs that can poach that talent. And yeah I'm denying it's true because it hasn't happened yet. And yes it is dramatic because, again, it hasn't happened yet. Get a grip So if Grealish leaves in a few days you will no longer feel the need to tell me to get a grip? If he doesn't leave then great. The fact remains about selling players when we are at our strongest and never being able to compete though. It's happened before, the cycle needs to end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 It troubles me that so many are painting Jack as a Judas when he’s still a Villa player and contacted for another four years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: No wonder it's nearly eight quid a gallon. Quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Just now, MotoMkali said: This is the truth. If we sell Jack. We aren't competing for Europe for a long time. We also need to massively upgrade our midfield and move McGinn on if we lose him as well. I think the above is the point at this present time. All of the doomsday overreactions of the last 700 pages are totally moot at this present time. It may well change, but for the love of god stop making hilariously embarrassing statements as to the impact of an event that hasn't even happened. On the other hand if you or the other 20 or so posters who are spouting this total crock of shit can indeed predict the future then I would like to know who will win the 3.30pm at Catterick, cheers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 This is a true test of intent. The club have to get their elbows out here and say no. The money isn't really helpful, it's sets a precedent of us being a selling club and we go backwards and it costs money in other ways (lower finish, fewer merch sales, can't attract as good players). I have much more faith in Dean Smith to spend money well than previous managers, but it's not a guarentee. We went massively backwards last time and have had nearly 10 years of turbulence after selling Milner, Young, Barry etc. How much has that actually cost the club really? When you think in these terms, a seasons worth of TV revenue in exchange for our best player and our poster boy for our amibitions makes zero sense. It's simple for me. Keep Grealish and add more quality. Sell him and I cannot see us improving even with the cash available. It's a pivotal moment this! Come on owners, let's get aggressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Steero113 said: I think the above is the point at this present time. All of the doomsday overreactions of the last 700 pages are totally moot at this present time. It may well change, but for the love of god stop making hilariously embarrassing statements as to the impact of an event that hasn't even happened. On the other hand if you or the other 20 or so posters who are spouting this total crock of shit can indeed predict the future then I would like to know who will win the 3.30pm at Catterick, cheers. I literally said on the last page I don't think he will leave. I'm just entertaining the hypothetical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Just now, The_Steve said: It troubles me that so many are painting Jack as a Judas when he’s still a Villa player and contacted for another four years. Thats the bit, I don't get....He has simply out grown us in football terms....That is no ones fault , his or the clubs, both have done their best to improve. If he was 21, he might see things slightly differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreveryoung Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 90% of fans on here acting as though he is already gone. HE IS STILL A VILLA PLAYER GUYS, EVERYTHING IS MEDIA SPECULATION, NO CONTACT FROM CLUBS!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben1505 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, The_Steve said: It’s the media pushing Jack to City, not us. They wouldn’t dream of writing such content about us when pursuing our transfer targets. We were painted as being second-choice for Buendia. They’d never write that Southampton are expected to accept our offer for JWP. They are insulted that an ambitious and wealthy Villa don’t know their place. This 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: This is the truth. If we sell Jack. We aren't competing for Europe for a long time. We also need to massively upgrade our midfield and move McGinn on if we lose him as well. im sorry the last line doesnt make sense, we need to move McGinn on before we lose him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillz Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Obviously don't want him to go - and will be gutted if he did - But can we just appreciate something for a minutes..... Our local lad Jack could potentially be a the highest ever English transfer, the highest ever PL player even. Not bad for a kid from Solihull He's an absolute superstar, whatever happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: How are we supposed to get into the top 4 by weakening the team The same way Liverpool (they were just Top4 year before and sold Coutinho in January the following year and still managed to maintain Top 4) Spurs (Bale) Leicester (Mahrez, Kante) Have managed to get back into the Top 4 or maintain their progression at some point after losing great players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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