mykeyb Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 If there is no release clause I don't think we will accept 100 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 We can't really blame Grealish if he goes. All this was signed last season by his agents and probably the plan to allow us 1 last season. We probably had our hand forced to put a release clause in the contract (if he has one) to keep him for season 2020-21, which then guarantees his departure in year 2 of the contract and the club get the big money they wanted. Sounded a good deal last season, unfortunately it's looking although he is worth more now, but our hands are tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, tomav84 said: this is not true. arsenal THOUGHT there was a clause so the bid it to test whether there was or not. The PFA confirmed no clause existed. Luis Suarez is the top scorer in the English Premier League, which is arguably the top soccer league in the world,” Henry said. “He had a buyout clause of £40m. Arsenal, one of our prime rivals, offered £40m plus £1. What we’ve found … is that contracts don’t seem to mean a lot in England – actually, in world football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, thunderball said: I agree. There must be a £100m release clause. If there wasn’t, and NSWE wanted to keep Jack the could, even if he wanted to go. I think the club would also state if there wasn’t but they didn’t. Shows Jack doesn’t have the club at heart, it all about personal priorities for him, the second something better came up we went ignoring the Project and promises. I don't think the club have said anything yet. I don't think they will until they have spoken to Grealish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 He isn't stupid for wanting to leave. Quite the opposite, it's a good move for him personally. He's stupid for saying all that nonsense last summer. But as much as we loved him, he's not the brightest spark so it can't be a surprise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thunderball Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: Anyone booing him at any point in the future needs their head checking. Disagree. He is as mercenary or duplicitous as any, all have improved themselves at the detriment of the club. However the club promised him everything: Captaincy, biggest salary ever sanctioned, building the team around him etc, he had every reason to stay if he was a true fan and had integrity. The timing is also selfish and as bad as it could almost be. If others deserved booing, he deserves as much if not more. Edited July 31, 2021 by thunderball 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 Going to be a big weekend for Jack... his future career will be defined over the next couple of days. One one side - become the first UK £100m player - plus pretty much guaranteed trophies and big Champions League nights. His profile will grow massively because of this. On the other side - stay and captain your boyhood team as they attempt to break into the upper echelons of the league. No guarantee that will happen though in the next few years as we all know how tough it is to break the top 4. However, he will cement his standing as a legend here and his presence will undoubtedly be a positive in attracting new players. Objectively, I can see both sides of the argument. It's a huge decision for him, as he will also know about the backlash he will get if he leaves from some of the supporters. My view though... The bigger challenge if he goes will be who to sign? With our current budget plus an extra £100m on top, we could be looking at another 3 or 4 top quality players to join Buendia. We may become a better, more rounded team, that isn't reliant on one player so much. It may work out better? Just trying to find positives! It'll sting if he goes, because he's joining City... it would be easier if it was Real Madrid or Barcelona. Like Bale or Beckham. That way you don't have to see him every week. Or he might sign a new contract and we all wonder what we were worried about all along. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Reivax_Villa said: Deal will be completed next week by the looks of it. As I said before Grealish is a footballer first and a Villa fan second. He needs to be playing Champions League football and being coached by the best. It will be hard to see him go but I won’t begrudge him. We will know on Monday. If he doesn't return to Bodymoor on Monday he is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Absolutely cannot disagree with that line. It staggers me. Absolutely staggers me that we aren't linked with any midfielders. I can only imagine it means that Smith is happy with his current midfield which greatly worries me. If we go into the season with McGinn and Ramsey as starters we've got absolutely no chance getting European football in my opinion. always finds a way to turn it back onto smith.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post M_Afro Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 Let’s show a bit of respect for our fantastic owners. They have saved our club. They have shown more ambition in their 3 years then anyone has in my 40 years of supporting our great club. They have backed up their words with actions every single step of the way. They have firmly stuck us back on the map and will continue to climb that ladder. Now……listen to this bit because it’s important …..they are extremely intelligent and successful businessmen. They will absolutely squeeze the very best out of this situation, whatever that may be. They will then continue to make us better and better every single day. So, please show them the love and respect that they so richly deserve. Finally, for all of you singing the praises of the great negotiator Levy. Let’s just remember how NSWE absolutely schooled him and put him in his place when he thought he could steel Jack from us for a set of tracksuit tops and a packet of digestives. If he does go, which he won’t, he will go for a hell of a lot more than he would of 3 years ago, he will go having given us an extra three brilliant years and it will all be thanks to NSWE. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, thunderball said: Disagree. He is as mercenary or duplicitous as any, all have improved themselves at the detriment of the club. However the club promised him everything: Captaincy, biggest salary ever sanctioned, building the team around him etc, he had every reason to stay if he was a true fan and had integrity. The timing is also self and as bad as it could almost be. If others deserved booing, he deserves as much if not more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: We can't really blame Grealish if he goes. All this was signed last season by his agents and probably the plan to allow us 1 last season. We probably had our hand forced to put a release clause in the contract (if he has one) to keep him for season 2020-21, which then guarantees his departure in year 2 of the contract and the club get the big money they wanted. Sounded a good deal last season, unfortunately it's looking although he is worth more now, but our hands are tied. Absolutely. But it’s the Delph bullsh*t that goes with it that makes it so false. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) If the 100m bid is matching the release clause, it would be reported as such. Particularly by someone like Percy who has already reported about a release clause, when Jack signed his contract last year. Edited July 31, 2021 by CarryOnVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Reivax_Villa said: Deal will be completed next week by the looks of it. As I said before Grealish is a footballer first and a Villa fan second. He needs to be playing Champions League football and being coached by the best. It will be hard to see him go but I won’t begrudge him. He could do that here. We have world class facilities, top coaches, and massive potential he could be the guy that got us promoted, then kept us up, then consolidated, then got us into Europe, then won us a trophy. Instead he will be the guy that done well for us, got us back where we belong, but only hung around until a some club bigger came along. If he is a Villa fan, his dreams are all in a Villa shirt! It's not a lack of ambition that would be keeping him here, it's love, and real ambition! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 When I hear the lad say he no longer wishes to play for Aston Villa then I will believe it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, mykeyb said: I don't think the club have said anything yet. I don't think they will until they have spoken to Grealish Looks like a strategy. Make him turn up at BMH, then whack him with the persuasion. Everything at the moment looks engineered to avoid this meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Folski said: Luis Suarez is the top scorer in the English Premier League, which is arguably the top soccer league in the world,” Henry said. “He had a buyout clause of £40m. Arsenal, one of our prime rivals, offered £40m plus £1. What we’ve found … is that contracts don’t seem to mean a lot in England – actually, in world football https://www.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2011-2012/suarez-40m1-clause-does-not-force-liverpool-to-sell-says-pfa-chief_sto3874020/story.shtml Quote However Taylor – who has read the contract - said the clause does not bind the Anfield club to a transfer. "If you are going to have a supposed buy-out clause it should be that, but it is different as it says if there is no qualification for the Champions League and if there is a minimum offer of £40 million then the parties will get around the table to discuss things - but it does not say the club has to sell,” he told the Press Association. "It quite clearly states £40m is a minimum offer for discussions, but it becomes really difficult with such clauses. "There is a 'good faith' clause in relation to serious discussions but I can't say it is cast-iron buy-out clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Would be mental to see this thread moved over to other football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 Would honestly prefer Chelsea, Liverpool or even Man Utd to City. Their sports washing financial doping oil/blood money football ‘empire’ is a cancer on the sport. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: Anyone booing him at any point in the future needs their head checking. He has proven he doesn't care one jot about the club if he leaves now right before the season starts. If he gets booed for leaving us in the lurch like this it's because he will have deserved it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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