Rolta Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: I guess if I actively disliked a countries national team and wanted them to lose when I watched them, I’d certainly find it very strange to then pick a club team from said country to support—just seems odd. Clubs like ours are steeped in English football history. I can’t claim to be in that demographic though, so.. Recently I lived with a Pakistani Man U fan and was hanging out with an Irish Newcastle fan. They're a small sample size, but I can't imagine thinking these guys should support the English national team just because they follow clubs in England (they don't support England—one of them vociferously so!). The clubs might be steeped in English football history, but that is very different to English warmongering imperial history, which seems to be what people object to. I guess the prem is just a massive product and there are supporters who don't have the same connection as someone 'local'. But I also think just because you like something that's English it doesn't mean you automatically can't have reservations about certain things about England itself. Edited July 8, 2021 by Rolta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 One thing that I’ve noticed is that there are literally no photos of Jack and Mings together… Nor have they seemed to celebrate together at full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, DCJonah said: I was having flashback to times last season! I never want to go back to that. " We won, but did we REALLY win? " * Proceeds to scientifically break down why results, aren't really results. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: " We won, but did we REALLY win? " * Proceeds to scientifically break down why results, aren't really results. Come on now, which one of you on here is George?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Same energy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Villa87 said: One thing that I’ve noticed is that there are literally no photos of Jack and Mings together… Nor have they seemed to celebrate together at full time. Mings and Coady seem joined at the hip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post burchy Posted July 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2021 This made me chuckle earlier ‘Spy in the camp’ 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Mings and Coady seem joined at the hip If you go by some of the media vids they’re best mates, proper bromance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I thought it was a poor call from Southgate to take Jack off in the match. I understand his reasoning, but the fact is we were well on top in the first half of extra time, then, when he brought Trippier on, we were pretty much hanging on for the last 15 minutes against 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 16 hours ago, MotoMkali said: I'd be unhappy. Boring football is boring football. It's entertainment and that is what should come first I think winning football is entertaining. That's what I want.....Its hard to score against the really good sides, so not conceding, is a huge help. Entertainment is subjective......gung ho attacking football can soon lose its appeal, when you keep losing......The holy grail is a balance of knowing when to attack and when to defend. These Euro's have made a clear example of the need to defend as well as you attack.....one without the other, is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, R.Bear said: I genuinely wish I hadnt just read the match thread. Cheering for Denmark after Jack was subbed. Who even wants fans like that? What a bunch of idiots does anything surprise you anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Villa87 said: One thing that I’ve noticed is that there are literally no photos of Jack and Mings together… Nor have they seemed to celebrate together at full time. I was there last night and they were walking, arms round each other and chatting for a good minute or so shortly after full time. Edited July 8, 2021 by Wainy316 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: I was there last night and they were walking, arms round each other and chatting for a good minute or so shortly after full time. Great to hear!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, meregreen said: I thought it was a poor call from Southgate to take Jack off in the match. I understand his reasoning, but the fact is we were well on top in the first half of extra time, then, when he brought Trippier on, we were pretty much hanging on for the last 15 minutes against 10 men. It's not what I would have done, but ultimately we won the game so it's hard to criticise a manager's decisions when they result in us (England) winning games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, vreitti said: It's funny how it always seems to be a question of "needing more of something" when it comes to Jack. yeah Goals...In order to hit the very top heights, I think that's what he has to do. No, its not just Jack, but any mercurial talent who plays in attack. I love what Jack does....but adding goals will cement or project his status. Edited July 8, 2021 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Come on now, which one of you on here is George?? This is embarrassing stuff. Couldn't even finish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just walked past a group of Asian lads in Bradford singing super Jack. He really is growing in popularity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, chrisvilla4 said: Just walked past a group of Asian lads in Bradford singing super Jack. He really is growing in popularity Mrs H29 said her Hungarian (girl) friends all talking about him in their WhatsApp group … doubt it’s football related though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: Mrs H29 said her Hungarian (girl) friends all talking about him in their WhatsApp group … doubt it’s footballs related though im sure its partly related...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, villalad21 said: This is embarrassing stuff. Couldn't even finish it. Embarrassing indeed. At what point in football did people start supporting individual players ahead of teams? It’s like teenage girl hero worshipping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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