Ratings & Reactions: FAC3: Man Utd v Villa

[Bosnichs Muller corner]

If it was given for Ramsey being offside (and involved?) then why did the ref need to look at the screen?? Isn't it normally lines on the screen and then ruled out. It seems like someone was offside but we needed to involve the ref to find a reason they were involved in the goal. What a farce

Edited January 10, 2022 by Bosnichs Muller corner

[StefanAVFC]

4 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said:

Read the rule for obstruction and watch it back.

Ramsey is in an offside position, keeps his eyes on Cavaniand steps into him to block him.

Meanwhile Cavani is watching the ball.

Clearest obstruction you will ever see.

You honestly telling me if that's a villa player getting block by a United player, you don't want it disallowed?  If you say no, you're lying to yourself.

It wasn’t a foul for obstruction. It was offside. 

[Ingram85]

27 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Funnily enough, both scored.

Well, they didn’t technically. I get what your saying and I understand the emoji reactions too, I want them to click but neither imo are doing enough imo, both very poor this season. 

[Tommo_b]

Why was Var looking at it….? 
 

For offside, so why are they looking for other infringements, so corrupt. 

[TheMelvillan]

15 minutes ago, R.Bear said:

So if a goal is reviewed because of a foul and it turns out there is no foul but then its discovered that the player was offside, the goal should still stand?

Absolute nonsense.

Either that or wait 4 minutes after every goal while they look at everything in whatever detail suits the overall refereeing agenda

[HKP90]

1 minute ago, pintpotvilla said:

Rubbish, JJ never moved ,Cavani (who was never getting anywhere near the ball) just ran into him to try and get a free kick 

VAR then tried to find Ings offside, couldn't get that so made up a foul by JJ It's just corrupt I'm afraid

Have you seen the quotes from Mike Halsey who admits refs are told to favour certain teams!! 

I’d be interested in those quotes. Linky?

[The_Steve]

So why doesn't VAR do an offside check on JJ to begin with? Because they needed to find an excuse

[flashingqwerty]

1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said:

It wasn’t a foul for obstruction. It was offside. 

Not according to the BBC.

[The Fun Factory]

Games like this make you wonder why do we even bother

I genuinely can't see us ever winning a trophy again and best case scenario is one day we might scrape a europa conference league spot

The same old will continue to dominate the league with their inbuilt commercial advantages and will either invent new rules to stop anyone else joining their club or have another go in creating a super league in the future

I have mentioned it before but before the premier league started Villa and United had both won an equal amount of league titles, FA Cups, and European Cups. 

We will never ever catch them up

65 years and counting

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[The_Steve]

Oliver saw Cavani clatter into JJ and saw no reason to give a foul. It's an utter joke that it took minutes to find that flimsy excuse.

[Herman22]

2 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said:

It's not just 'any contact' though is it?

It's a player standing in an offside position starting at the man he wants to block 9ff and steps into him to make sure he blocks him.  Meanwhile Cavani is watching the ball and doesn't know Ramsey is there.

The Konsa 9ne is a much better one where we should have gotten a penalty and didn't.  Shaw looks around at Konsa then swings his arm

As they said in BBC it’s only an offence if they (Cavani) will get to the ball which he’s nowhere near. 
On the Konsa foul, we will never get that! We don’t get stonewall pens and the VAR refuses to look at them! 

[nick76]

4 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said:

Read the rule for obstruction and watch it back.

Ramsey is in an offside position, keeps his eyes on Cavaniand steps into him to block him.

Meanwhile Cavani is watching the ball.

Clearest obstruction you will ever see.

You honestly telling me if that's a villa player getting block by a United player, you don't want it disallowed?  If you say no, you're lying to yourself.

I don’t agree with your interpretation.  

Bet you if it had been the other way around it wouldn’t have been ruled out for Man U.

I’ve tried to see it your way and at best it’s 50/50 on that interpretation, it’s very soft to rule that out and given it took 3.5 minutes to get to that is very dubious and looks like they were trying to find something to give a foul on.  It’s a very soft call.

[Chine]

Great performance for a majority of the game , got manure at old Trafford to kick the ball away and keep having to resort to fouling in the second half , if we had took a couple of the many chances created we’d be hailing SG , agree we need a few changes in personnel to get the job done and make us more consistent , he’s juggling at the moment with the subs but with more players arriving some that were on the pitch will be decent back up , it might take more than the first week of the January transfer window to get things how he wants , no negative from me 

[StefanAVFC]

4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Cavani would never have got to that ball. So really Ramsey wasn't interfering with play.

And Leno wouldn’t have saved McGinn’s shot. Offside is offside. 

I don’t agree that he affected play too but if we’re talking offside, offside is offside

[HKP90]

Just now, Herman22 said:

As they said in BBC it’s only an offence if they (Cavani) will get to the ball which he’s nowhere near. 
On the Konsa foul, we will never get that! We don’t get stonewall pens and the VAR refuses to look at them! 

It’s the lack of VAR check that gets me.

[Spoony]

2 minutes ago, gwi1890 said:

We will be well up for it at the weekend, hope we thump them 5-0! 

5 Villa goals eh? You know it’s not enough  

96 - FT - AVL - 0 MUN - 2

90+6 - TURBO ROUND BONUS GOAL! FOR REASONS AND STUFF BECAUSE OF RULES N SUCH! - AVL - 0 MUN - 2

90+6 - GOAL! Fernandes (pen) - AVL - 0 MUN -1

90 - 10 minutes additional time

90 - Disallowed goal (impersonating a member of the clergy) - AVL - 0 MUN - 0

85 - GOAL! Watkins - AVL - 1 MUN - 0

72 - Disallowed goal (handling salmon in suspicious circumstances) - AVL - 0 MUN - 0

67 - GOAL! Buendia - AVL - 1 MUN - 0

42 - Disallowed goal (obstruction or something) - AVL - 0 MUN - 0

42 - GOAL! Coutinho - AVL - 1 MUN - 0

30 - Disallowed goal (tackling with legs) - AVL - 0 MUN - 0

30 - GOAL! Coutinho - AVL - 1 MUN - 0

13 - Disallowed goal (Scottish but not McTominay) - AVL - 0 MUN - 0

13 - GOAL! McGinn - AVL - 1 MUN - 0

[ozvillafan]

1 minute ago, IrishVilla10 said:

JJ isn’t even looking at the ball or running into the box to try and play the ball, anyone trying to argue otherwise needs to watch it again. It’s a foul 

Umm...

How can he run into the box when he is already standing in it?

How can he make a play for the ball when he is already deliberately standing in a false offside position?

There was a second false offside Villa player in that play. He wasn't looking at the ball either - because they cannot play the ball nor get involved.

Ramsay makes no attempt to move out of the way.....

... but he doesn't have to. He's holding his ground which, by rights, he is allowed to do.

Is that obstruction? Yes - yes it is. It's legal obstruction, otherwise he would not be allowed to stand in an offside position to start with. After all, that is the whole point of putting players there.

Cavani - who has already lost his man - makes the most of any contact like a good forward does. That's always going to be enough at ManUre.

 

[AvonVillain]

So tiring in every way. Feel Gerrard let the team down with his subs. Someone mentioned Buendia looking happy when subbed; my impression was that he was so shocked at being pulled despite being the best player on the pitch that he began to speak in tongues.

[pintpotvilla]

4 minutes ago, HKP90 said:

I’d be interested in those quotes. Linky?

I can't do links but Google Mike Halsey quotes in the Independent and you probably won't believe anothe football result!!