Hank Scorpio Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Condimentalist said: This is nonsense. A good pre season, a couple of key signings, there's no reason we can't push for Europe next season. No excuses. We say that every summer spunk money and it doesn't happen. Each season it gets harder and further away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) I too am feeling pretty depressed after that dog awful "display". I personally feel it was a very inexperienced act from Gerrard when he tried to, as he (i think) said, "use the winter break as a mini pre-season to try to change the style to more like the one he wanted". Sorry but i was of the thinking it was very dangerous to try to change fundamentals mid season? It clearly has not worked we are worse i feel. The strikers are totally anonymous & we have lost more than we have gained from what i've seen so far. I hope & pray it will get better fast as this (last 6) is currently relegation form. Can't get to 40 points soon enough as we have tough games to end the season after the supposed "easy run". Edited February 14, 2022 by danceoftheshamen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: I too am feeling pretty depressed after that dog awful "display". I personally feel it was a very inexperienced act from Gerrard when he tried to, as he (i think) said, "use the winter break as a mini pre-season to try to change the style to more like the one he wanted". Sorry but i was of the thinking it was very dangerous to try to change fundamentals mid season? It clearly has not worked we are worse i feel. The strikers are totally anonymous & we have lost more than we have gained from what i've seen so far. I hope & pray it will get better fast as this (last 6) is currently relegation form. Can't get to 40 points soon enough as we have tough games to end the season after the supposed "easy run". I thought we scored 3 goals in the first half the game before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) We won't go down but we won't finish in the top half either. We need serious investment in the summer like £150 million worth Edited February 14, 2022 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 This thread is titled like an episode of the big band theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: This thread is titled like an episode of the big band theory Wildly sexist and racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: This thread is titled like an episode of the big band theory Joe Loss and Mantovani Go Shopping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Pissflaps said: We say that every summer spunk money and it doesn't happen. Each season it gets harder and further away Mate, we were just in the Championship and have finished higher in consecutive seasons (and hopefully will again having sold our best player). What you are saying is provably false. Anyway, don't worry about facts, just wallow in a vague mood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woody1000 Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 We’re a mid table team. We play really well some weeks, ok others and pretty s*** on the rest. I really don’t know where this sense of entitlement has come from within ever growing sections of our support (a lot of them old enough to know better too!), but it has to stop. My wife is very good at being rational and calming me down after games like yesterday, a simple “Would you rather still be in the Championship?” usually does the trick. We just have to be patient, we are moving in the right direction as a club and as a team, but there are going to be bumps in the road. It is very rare to have just straight improvement without any setbacks. The lineup on Saturday against Watford will be interesting, I think we will see exactly who Gerrard has lost patience with. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: We’re a mid table team. We play really well some weeks, ok others and pretty s*** on the rest. I really don’t know where this sense of entitlement has come from within ever growing sections of our support (a lot of them old enough to know better too!), but it has to stop. Fully agree, the idea that throwing ever increasing amounts of money at it will solve the problem is also rubbish It takes time and patience to build a strong effective squad . What is the point of scraping into Europe only to be knocked out by a team that no ones ever heard of in a qualifying round ? Much better to qualify at a later date with a realistic chance of achieving something. Edited February 14, 2022 by smg Crap spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Condimentalist said: Mate, we were just in the Championship and have finished higher in consecutive seasons (and hopefully will again having sold our best player). What you are saying is provably false. Anyway, don't worry about facts, just wallow in a vague mood. Again but do you see any possibility of realistically catching up? Honestly? I've accepted that we are a midtable team and that's probably our limit. The years in the championship have set us back and the gap is huge to bridge now. There are 7/8 teams light years ahead. And no that's not a shot at the owners or management team now, they have been excellent overall . I just don't see why so many villa fans seem to think we will or have a right to be in the top area of the league. If I could be proved wrong though I would love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I'd say the bottom three is looking pretty much set. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Pissflaps said: Again but do you see any possibility of realistically catching up? Honestly? I've accepted that we are a midtable team and that's probably our limit. The years in the championship have set us back and the gap is huge to bridge now. There are 7/8 teams light years ahead. And no that's not a shot at the owners or management team now, they have been excellent overall . I just don't see why so many villa fans seem to think we will or have a right to be in the top area of the league. If I could be proved wrong though I would love it. Wolves are in the European places. West Ham are in the top 4. They are very comparable sides, in fact you could argue we have more spending power and a stronger academy. No defeatism please. European football is definitely attainable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 It’s not even up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 10 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: I thought we scored 3 goals in the first half the game before Yes we did KV however I was at the game and for the large part we were not great. The attacking play (specifically Coutinho & Ramsey) for 30 mins was great but the defending, (in the main by Mings) was relegation level defending. We did ok to get the win at Everton (albeit backs against the wall) and the comeback against Man Utd was very uplifting (The 1st half again pretty shocking as a whole however). It's the fact we go missing for half games (or in the Newcastle debacle the whole game it appears) that appears to be a recurring theme. We also seem to have forgotten how to involve the striker. I have no doubt SG will sort it over time but i feel more new players are clearly needed as some we have don't appear to fit his style. I just hope the wheels don't come fully off in the run in else we could easily fall into trouble especially with us playing the likes of Watford Norwich, Burnley x 2 over the coming weeks. All teams who could be on our shirt tails should we lose a few of those.....Newcastle was one of those and we lost it without turning up for example!!! 27 points is stil 4 to 5 wins off where we need to be to be able to relax about it and the final few games are tough. We have left games against Watford, now a must win in my view as we then have Southampton (h) (Bang in form) West Ham (a) (Pushing for top 4 and appear to be a bogey team currently) Arsenal (h) (Pushing for Europe) Wolves (a) (playing well and also in European slots) Spurs (h) (Pushing for Champs League) Liverpool (h) (Obviously really tough) Norwich (h) MUST WIN Burnley (a) (Could easily be a 6 pointer and we normally lost up there) Then we have a home game against Burnley to rearrange somewhere followed by Palace (h) & Man City (a) on the last day!!! The games we need wins from are clear.... the teams below us in the main. Any wins from the rest take pressure off but we simply cannot afford to lose against those teams below us as they will be on us fast. Newcastle & Leeds were two of those games...we got 1 point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Being realistic, 3 wins would be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mantis said: Being realistic, 3 wins would be enough. Even 2 its a non issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 We will end up on about 45 points which will get us about 13-14th. A bit meh but not a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 15-17th finish is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, MrSmirch said: 15-17th finish is my guess. That would be a disgrace if I am honest. I think we will finish slightly higher myself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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