useless Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I don't think we're in danger of relegation, but Gerrard himself said after the game today that we can't think we're safe because you can get dragged in the battle very quickly. Hopeully it's a one of but if today's performance becomes a trend we could easily slide down the table and whilst finishing the bottom three seems very unlikely we're not that far ahead of the teams just outside of the relegation zone and us finishing anywhere near the bottom three would be a very disappointing season. I still think we can challenge for top half though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Remember we had a pretty decent season last year. But we still lost to Sheffield, one of the worst teams ever to grace the league, who by the way had ten men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I think we will be safe but not by loads. I think we will struggle to get more than 42 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woody1000 Posted February 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2022 The bed wetting going on all over this board is ridiculous. I’m out for tonight. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Don't think we will go down but 14/16th is about our ceiling. We are gash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2022 We should be ok, but not a lot of room. 15th is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 But what's the point in getting Allardyce in when we're already down? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, Mantis said: But what's the point in getting Allardyce in when we're already down? If we only win 1 in the next 7 games. We might need some experience hands to try and keep us up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, messi11 said: If we only win 1 in the next 7 games. We might need some experience hands to try and keep us up No, it's already over. We're down. No point in pretending otherwise. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 We are in a bad place but no chance we go down, Gerrard new manager bounce got us enough points No chance we will get near last points tally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Woody1000 said: The bed wetting going on all over this board is ridiculous. I’m out for tonight. Just taken one point from Leeds and Newcastle. Some of the negativity is justified, especially after that disgrace of a performance this afternoon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 We are 1 point off the total points that Fulham, in 18th, got all of last year. Right now, we have a 10-point gap between us and 18th, with a game in hand. Yeah, deffo should be on the phone to Big Sam right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I think the end of season madness will keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Pissflaps said: We won't ever become what the owners want. There are going to be 8 or so teams that are so far ahead of us by the end of the summer it's just impossible. As sad and pessimistic as it is, mid table is the best we can achieve. This is almost certainly correct. It's why I have no interest in discussing 'projects' or stuff of that nature on here. The league has ossified, and the only team who can change that are Newcastle, both because of the money and also because the media have already anointed them the newest member of the top group, so they will get a lot of intangible benefit from that. We are part of the rest of the pack, where in most seasons the best we can hope for is to finish 8th, and the worst is to get relegated. Increasingly I find myself thinking that if we're not in any big relegation trouble - and I think we aren't, though it would be good to beat Watford to be on the safe side - then all I really want is entertainment, don't much care about the result beyond the level of achieving safety. From an entertainment perspective, the Leeds game was actually better than the Everton game, but today was shit both from a result and an entertainment point of view, so can't help feeling very downbeat tonight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Pissflaps said: We won't ever become what the owners want. There are going to be 8 or so teams that are so far ahead of us by the end of the summer it's just impossible. As sad and pessimistic as it is, mid table is the best we can achieve. This is nonsense. A good pre season, a couple of key signings, there's no reason we can't push for Europe next season. No excuses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Pissflaps said: We won't ever become what the owners want. There are going to be 8 or so teams that are so far ahead of us by the end of the summer it's just impossible. As sad and pessimistic as it is, mid table is the best we can achieve. I'm inclined to agree with you, it's almost futile but I guess we have blind faith. Villa messed up today as Newcastle will likely stay up and be a force in seasons ahead and possibly even be fighting us for the top ten next season. Man City messed with Lerner's Villa, I hope Newcastle don't do the same for NSWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 From what we have witnessed over the last 12 months we are miles away. What really worries me is the formation and style of play Gerrard is trying to play. It just isn't working, and ends up as long ball bollocks. Might have worked in the Scottish Prem but this is another level. Yes we need two new defenders, yes we need a defensive midfielder, but if the notion that this is the way to play Premiership football Gerrard is wrong. We could easily get dragged into a relegation fight and lose to Watford and the alarm bells will be going off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, messi11 said: We have a better team then Wolves, Brighton, Southampton. Could argue a better side than West Ham. We should be up there right now, but for some reason we are not Absolute waffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Name Is Death Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: This is almost certainly correct. It's why I have no interest in discussing 'projects' or stuff of that nature on here. The league has ossified, and the only team who can change that are Newcastle, both because of the money and also because the media have already anointed them the newest member of the top group, so they will get a lot of intangible benefit from that. We are part of the rest of the pack, where in most seasons the best we can hope for is to finish 8th, and the worst is to get relegated. Increasingly I find myself thinking that if we're not in any big relegation trouble - and I think we aren't, though it would be good to beat Watford to be on the safe side - then all I really want is entertainment, don't much care about the result beyond the level of achieving safety. From an entertainment perspective, the Leeds game was actually better than the Everton game, but today was shit both from a result and an entertainment point of view, so can't help feeling very downbeat tonight. More and more, no matter how positive things have been since Edens and Sawiris took over, I think that our one opportunity was when Ellis agreed to sell the club, before Mansour and FFP, and our fate was sealed from there. Edited February 14, 2022 by His Name Is Death 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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