Summer transfer window 2021

[Dave-R]

On 20/04/2021 at 10:42, supermon said:

Lol 48 hours ago, we didn't even know about a super league, so it's feasible anything can happen, which includes Jack leaving.

That's great you're not worried, that's your opinion. I'm not trying to have a knee jerk reaction to all this. Just my opinion again, I think it changes dynamics of the summer window as big 6 and other ELS teams will have a significant kitty, so in turn there is a slight chance they may come in for Grealish.

We learned of it last year

[TheMelvillan]

Not wanting to buy a good striker because we already have a good one is small time mentality. 

Personally id start ollie for some of these remaining games at left wing and see what he does. strikers usually have good crossing instincts and his workrate means that he will probably find himself in the box as often as he does now playing up front on his own.

i also really like watching davis play and bully centre backs so would stick him upfront. fella deserves a goal

[Tomaszk]

17 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said:

Not wanting to buy a good striker because we already have a good one is small time mentality. 

Personally id start ollie for some of these remaining games at left wing and see what he does. strikers usually have good crossing instincts and his workrate means that he will probably find himself in the box as often as he does now playing up front on his own.

i also really like watching davis play and bully centre backs so would stick him upfront. fella deserves a goal

It's not the act of buying "a" striker I'm not sure on. We do need a striker; I'd like to buy one. I do think that buying a £30m+ Tammy Abraham could lead to shortages elsewhere. We definitely need a LB & RW...plus probably a DM, CB as well as a striker. 

Nice thought about trying Ollie on the wing, worth a go I'd say.

[nick76]

24 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

It's not the act of buying "a" striker I'm not sure on. We do need a striker; I'd like to buy one. I do think that buying a £30m+ Tammy Abraham could lead to shortages elsewhere. We definitely need a LB & RW...plus probably a DM, CB as well as a striker. 

Nice thought about trying Ollie on the wing, worth a go I'd say.

I think our attacking players have to be improved.  Our defence in the first XI is good enough but our attack is not.  If we have limited money our focus has to be quality attack wise.  We can’t afford to spread our money thinly over 5 or 6 positions if that is the case just to reenforce some areas.  We have to improve the first XI and if that sucks up our transfer kitty then so be it.  We can’t afford to bring in a bunch of ok players because we won’t improve.  While LB is important, we still have poor backs like Taylor or even Hause could play they.  We currently do have a CAM or a decent right winger and other than Ollie we don’t have a goal scorer.  Wes we are still waiting on how he recovers and Davis is out of favour.  At least in defence we have cover, although poor alternatives.

[brummybloke]

On 18/04/2021 at 15:11, TRO said:

What is the general consensus of why we bought Sanson?

I think we were looking at him last year but the 35 million price tag was too much. He has been rated as one of the top 10 midfielders in France for a few years now. I suspect he will take on the role of central midfielder switching from a forward playing midfielder to midfield 'general'. He can mix it up, decent passing and decent shooting with good movement.

Asking him to come into a poorly playing team and expecting miracles won't happen unless that player is someone like Ronaldo.

Hopefully he will get used to his surroundings quickly, learn the lingo, gets up to speed playing wise and fits in. Trying to do everything at once rarely works.

 

[thabucks]

Brennan Johnson Is an interesting young LW on loan at Lincoln from Notts Forest we should be looking at . Linked with Brentford & Leeds for £10million and fits the model of young & British. 

Edited April 21, 2021 by thabucks

[barry'sboots]

2 hours ago, brummybloke said:

I think we were looking at him last year but the 35 million price tag was too much. He has been rated as one of the top 10 midfielders in France for a few years now. I suspect he will take on the role of central midfielder switching from a forward playing midfielder to midfield 'general'. He can mix it up, decent passing and decent shooting with good movement.

Asking him to come into a poorly playing team and expecting miracles won't happen unless that player is someone like Ronaldo.

Hopefully he will get used to his surroundings quickly, learn the lingo, gets up to speed playing wise and fits in. Trying to do everything at once rarely works.

 

Agreed.  We can't judge the kid until he has had a full pre-season and has settled.  Then let's see.  I think he hasn't looked out of place and he also hasn't had the benefit of working with a fully functioning forward line.

[villaglint]

1 hour ago, thabucks said:

Brennan Johnson Is an interesting young LW on loan at Lincoln from Notts Forest we should be looking at . Linked with Brentford & Leeds for £10million and fits the model of young & British. 

Just to a look at the YouTube vids and his highlights include about 9 fairly dubious penalty decisions. For that reason he looks more like a Utd player to me. 

[barry'sboots]

3 hours ago, nick76 said:

I think our attacking players have to be improved.  Our defence in the first XI is good enough but our attack is not.  If we have limited money our focus has to be quality attack wise.  We can’t afford to spread our money thinly over 5 or 6 positions if that is the case just to reenforce some areas.  We have to improve the first XI and if that sucks up our transfer kitty then so be it.  We can’t afford to bring in a bunch of ok players because we won’t improve.  While LB is important, we still have poor backs like Taylor or even Hause could play they.  We currently do have a CAM or a decent right winger and other than Ollie we don’t have a goal scorer.  Wes we are still waiting on how he recovers and Davis is out of favour.  At least in defence we have cover, although poor alternatives.

Agreed.  Top 6 back five, bottom half/relegation front six, certainly without Jack.

It's a fine balance this summer and it depends what NSWE want to do.  Also, I'm not 100% sure where FFP is at the minute.  If we can spend £200m then we could go all out for some stars.  If we have £100m net spend again then we would need to box clever.

I see people calling for a new CB, but we have three that I am very happy with and Engels is okay as 4th choice for me.  If we could get money for him and could re-deploy that then great but I wouldn't want to go spending significantly in that area if it sucked money out of other areas.  (However, I thought that last year with a new goal keeper and got that completely wrong!! ).  I haven't seen enough of Revan to know whether he would be a decent fourth choice given that the first two are pretty robust and we have no European football. 

Equally, calls for a new RB might be premature. We could use Kessler or, if he's not ready, keep Guilbert (who I think is decent back up anyway) for another season whilst Kessler is out on loan.

Priorities are definitely a RW and an ACM/LW depending on where they want Jack to play.

I would then ideally like, in order: a back up LB, a strong DCM, a second striking option and cover/rotation for ACM/wing.

I would love to see us get Davis and Ramsey out on loan to a decent championship outfit and see if they can cut it in men's football with regular first choice games.

 

[sidcow]

I pray we can ship some of our dead wood out for fees because we are going to have to go big this summer. Going to need to spend our usual £100m plus whatever else we can raise in sales. Need to upgrade so many players. 

[Dave-R]

We need some serious bloody signings summer, spend 50 mill n up on 3 or 4 signings, without that type of spending if we bring in more of the same as we have done summer gone we won't be competitive for a Europe qualify next season.

Bring Barry into the side asap and give him time now.

Spend on 2 new wingers and 2 new midfielders in Summer.

Edited April 21, 2021 by Dave-R

[Thug]

3 minutes ago, Dave-R said:

We need some serious bloody signings summer, spend 50 mill n up on 3 or 4 signings, without that type of spending if we bring in more of the same as we have done summer gone we won't be competitive for Europe next season.

Agreed.

 

I think it’s time we step into the £30-50m player brackets now.  Need 3 of these this summer rather than 5-6 £20m players

[VillaChris]

9 hours ago, Tomaszk said:

It's not the act of buying "a" striker I'm not sure on. We do need a striker; I'd like to buy one. I do think that buying a £30m+ Tammy Abraham could lead to shortages elsewhere. We definitely need a LB & RW...plus probably a DM, CB as well as a striker. 

Nice thought about trying Ollie on the wing, worth a go I'd say.

Can't we just sign a left back on season loan or something? I mean Targett's easily been one of our most consistant players this season so fully deserves to start 30 + games so really you're just spending 15-20m on one just to play in the cups and I can't see any decent one wanting to play that sort of role.

Would much rather just get experienced back up who can also fill in at CB, plenty of those versatile types out there.

Something going wrong if we even spend 20% of our budget on an LB this summer unless it's a potential world class one like say Angelino from Leipzig who I really rate...but we've not got that pull yet.

I agree with Nick, our strategy simply has to be to go big on two reasonably proven final third players and then work out the rest as the other 2-3 signings we make will mostly likely be back ups so we shouldn't be paying 20m + for those.

Interesting next 4 months ahead anyway. In some ways it's good we've had this sort of run without Jack as shows club simply can't be complacent about things as we're miles short going forward whenever he isn't on the pitch.

[Sulberto21]

We need a couple of tactically astute midfielders to replace McGinn and Nakamba from today. I think someone mentioned playing Cash in there as a variance to give us some bite in there.

But we really need to upgrade this area as a matter of priority.

[Mazrim]

Our control of and retention of the ball is rubbish. It has to improve both tactically and in terms of personel and coaching.

I accept Man City are a better team now but I really want to see this improve very quickly. 

[Sulberto21]

2 minutes ago, Mazrim said:

Our control of and retention of the ball is rubbish. It has to improve both tactically and in terms of personel and coaching.

I accept Man City are a better team now but I really want to see this improve very quickly. 

We're currently playing like a soft version of Wimbledon. At least those cookers would have kicked a few of them.

[the_eristic]

Yeah, it's midfield upgrades first and foremost for me. Somebody(-ies) that can mix it physically, win the ball AND with the technical ability to use it. Then a winger and an alternative striker, LB cover can come in the form of a young prospect as I can't see anyone appreciably better than Targett being available to us without spending a fortune.

[Dave-R]

1 minute ago, Thug said:

Agreed.

 

I think it’s time we step into the £30-50m player brackets now.  Need 3 of these this summer rather than 5-6 £20m players

The difference 4 or 5 players would make if we could hold the ball better in midfield and down the wings. Watkins needs help and Wingers to deliver to him.

RW is a must buy as we need a precision deliverer, passer, crosser and far post attacker of the ball.

CDM is looking a must buy as Luiz look a shadow of his earlier season self.

Attacking midfielder is looking a must buy as Mcginn is nothing like he was last early season and we need Creativity.

We so need a specialist interceptor or two, our midfielders are unable to close down, Intercept, drive and retain the ball yards at a time. It's okay having Luiz mop balls up but it's not working because he's going to do it alone, he's getting no where near as we have others not entertaining the thought of intercepting. Earlier in the season we had everyone looking to intercept and now we have next to know one, I'd like to know why Smith changed that part of our game because we look totally idiotic keep letting the opposite side have all this possession.

 

 

[Sulberto21]

I'd love to see someone like Muller or of his ilk come to our club. Leon Bailey and Diaby would be good additions. Yes I got it from the other football thread.

[Lerner's Driver]

Without serious spending in the summer I think there's a pretty good chance we could be back in the relegation fight next season.