Keyblade Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Absolutely utterly obvious he didn't intend for it to be a shot. It's laughable even if we suggest it. If he claims it it's obviously bullshit. Are there clues in his body shape/language that make this obvious or is it that he doesn't have it in his locker to pull that off? All the indications looked like he meant it. Didn't open up his body for a cross, had eyes on goal, didn't budge when it looked like it was headed for the net etc. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Not that it matters but honestly cannot tell if it was a shot or a misplaced cross, the body shape gives no clues. Look at his head. He's not looking across goal. He's staring straight at the goal. Watch the replay again. No way is he looking to square that unless it's a no look pass. Edited September 24, 2020 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Are there clues in his body shape/language that make this obvious or is it that he doesn't have it in his locker to pull that off? All the indications looked like he meant it. Didn't open up his body for a cross, had eyes on goal, didn't budge when it looked like it was headed for the net etc. It’s entirely unclear. His body language shoulders didn’t rotate much so that suggests a shot. But the natural thing to do there is hit it hard, which he didn’t do. He hit it about as hard as you’d hit a ball across the face of the goal. So it could be a gorgeous shot, or it could be a slightly miscued cross. Both have fair arguments, but anyone saying it’s obvious either way is deluded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 So those who think it a cross are mental, those who think it a shot are blind and those who think strongly either way are deluded. I think he was trying to clear it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 NGL I think he was trying to square it. Either way he looked great and adds to the teams confidence. The players will trust him immediately and he will definitely have defenders on the back foot worried with his pace. I think he is going to be a significant improvement on Trez. Excited for Fulham now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Was mostly good, level of opponent into account. Had flashes of class and flashes of sub par stuff. I'm expecting him to lose possession quite often when it's the real deal, and will be interesting to read this thread then. Will you stop with the positivity! 2020 has been a complete shit fest so far, I'm feeling down a lot of the time and no amount of empty bluster and chirpiness from you is going to make me feel any better. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jareth said: So those who think it a cross are mental, those who think it a shot are blind and those who think strongly either way are deluded. I think he was trying to clear it. 3 yards out, first game...... let's just cross the ball or maybe just stick my weak foot out and poke it towards the far post. Dear me a goal , I never meant that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) I think it looked like he tried to put it towards the back post, probably for someone to get a touch on it or for it to go in. Putting in a dangerous ball towards goal isn't unheard of. Sorry to you who really want it to be black or white, don't want to ruin the fun, but it could be somewhere inbetween. Edited September 24, 2020 by Keener window-cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Absolutely utterly obvious he didn't intend for it to be a shot. It's laughable even if we suggest it. If he claims it it's obviously bullshit. He meant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
string28 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 What a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 Look. He's a professional footballer. And a pretty damn good one at that. If he meant to shoot it was a pretty decent effort. Not spectacular or the most amazing goal you will ever see. But of a good quality. Not goal of the season contender or anything. If it was a cross it was completely diabolically bad. I mean absolutely terrible. It was perfect height, perfect weight, straight to his foot. Any professional player who would fail to square that into the box should be shot. I played one solitary time for my school team and I would have been able to get that across the face of goal 99 times out of 100. On the balance of probability, and I mean way, way, way on the balance of probability, it would be very little surprise if he was aiming for goal and scored, and a massive surprise if he was trying to pull it back a across goal and somehow spooned it into the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Even if he is inconsistent with flashes of brilliance, at least he has some brilliance and not just inconsistency like ghazi and trez. He at least tries things and tries to make things happen, will be happy to see him on the opposite wing to grealish. Also, on top of the goal, at one point he cut inside and did a lovely reverse pass for someone (cant remember who). Definitely an upgrade on the right compared to what we have. Edited September 24, 2020 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddybloke Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Discussing whether one of our players meant to score a wonder goal or not is nice a change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, useless said: this angle https://streamja.com/l2Zn3 https://streamja.com/l2Zn3 clearly shows that he meant it. It's not as if it was that much of an outrageous goal that he couldn't possibly have meant it, he just lifted it over the keeper. That was a terrible cross, nobody there; and for God's sake it went into the net. Nobody can score when the ball is already in the the net. Bertrand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keener window-cleaner Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 What is so sad is that a few ppl who was criticising Traoré and questioning us buying him without really knowing anything about him now are so schackled by their previous overreactive opinions that they are trying to find faults in his performance. It's unfair to the player. That's why I go on about not criticising too harshly and not have too definitive opinions early on. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I don't really care if he meant it or not. It was a goal. All that counts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) It was a perfectly hit clean strike, no idea if he meant it to go straight in or fore someone to get a touch on it. It was some great piece of skill nevertheless. And he looked class. It was against a Championship side, so let's see how he perfomrs in the PL, but it sure was encouraging to me. Edited September 24, 2020 by Keener window-cleaner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Milot who? Pretty sure the goal wasn’t intended, his celebration seemed to give it away for me but I could be wrong of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I think he meant to score that. he's just a little unconventional in the way he does things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 It was a cross come shot. Apparently he is very left footed and that was his right. A bit further out and it would have been the perfect cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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