useless Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) this angle https://streamja.com/l2Zn3 https://streamja.com/l2Zn3 clearly shows that he meant it. It's not as if it was that much of an outrageous goal that he couldn't possibly have meant it, he just lifted it over the keeper. Edited September 24, 2020 by useless 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KenjiOgiwara Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: The performance was impressive, no? The level of opposition accounted for, he was one of our better players and just generally looked a step above most. Was mostly good, level of opponent into account. Had flashes of class and flashes of sub par stuff. I'm expecting him to lose possession quite often when it's the real deal, and will be interesting to read this thread then. I'm not sold by any means. To put it into perspective AEG did well today with touches of class, and he sure isn't PL quality. Cup rotation option at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Watched the game on Carabao Cup Live. I think he meant it, his body shape and angle suggests he meant to shoot. Looks a quality player, first-half he was very effective and the reverse pass was exquisite. Give him a couple of weeks though at the very least, he needs time to get fit and understand the Villa philosophy and get to know his teammates. Edited September 24, 2020 by Zhan_Zhuang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Was mostly good, level of opponent into account. Had flashes of class and flashes of sub par stuff. I'm expecting him to lose possession quite often when it's the real deal, and will be interesting to read this thread then. I'm not sold by any means. To put it into perspective AEG did well today with touches of class, and he sure isn't PL quality. Cup rotation option at best. Traore also hasnt played since the 27th July compared to AEG fitness and sharpness levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Guess we need to wait to hear from him if he meant it or not. It's a good thing his overall performance was good too! Absolutely utterly obvious he didn't intend for it to be a shot. It's laughable even if we suggest it. If he claims it it's obviously bullshit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Was mostly good, level of opponent into account. Had flashes of class and flashes of sub par stuff. I'm expecting him to lose possession quite often when it's the real deal, and will be interesting to read this thread then. I'm not sold by any means. To put it into perspective AEG did well today with touches of class, and he sure isn't PL quality. Cup rotation option at best. Actually I thought he was shit. Touches of class yeah, but he was also very wasteful and only looked half engaged. He wasn't interested in his team at all. Agree we have to wait and see with Traore. Should go without saying? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Quick, grafting and tracking back, good touch... not entirely sure if he meant the goal or not... Poor opposition but looks good so far and clearly a better footballer than AEG and Trez you can see that already. So just to be clear. We have spent a reasonably insubstantial amount of money by PL standards and bought a player better than our two current wingers. Judging by some comments on here the last few weeks I thought we'd built a wickerman and stuffed it full of cash before setting it alight. Edited September 24, 2020 by sidcow 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rolta Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Absolutely utterly obvious he didn't intend for it to be a shot. It's laughable even if we suggest it. If he claims it it's obviously bullshit. To help you with your own gripe a minute ago. There's fact, and then there's opinion—and they're two different things. You seem to confuse the two. Edited September 24, 2020 by Rolta 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Absolutely utterly obvious he didn't intend for it to be a shot. It's laughable even if we suggest it. If he claims it it's obviously bullshit. No, I think he was aiming for the corner flag. They aim in the general direction.....they all do....it went in , bully for him. Edited September 24, 2020 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Derryvillan Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, rayk said: Just echoing others but it wasn’t a pass in front of goal, it was a pass into the back of the net on his weaker foot. Bertrand didn’t get out of fist gear tonight.....he’s going to be very important to us this season.....especially if we can get someone like Sarr in on the opposite flank. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: Great. The hard work is the most important thing for me. You need to press and graft in this league, regardless of your talent. Even if he wasn't a better forward, that would improve us substantially over last season. Add in that he is actually a better forward than our current wingers then its a massive upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sharkyvilla Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Absolutely utterly obvious he didn't intend for it to be a shot. It's laughable even if we suggest it. If he claims it it's obviously bullshit. I wouldn't say it's utterly obvious at all. I'm really not looking forward to a whole season of this just because you wrote him off so early. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: I wouldn't say it's utterly obvious at all. I'm really not looking forward to a whole season of this just because you wrote him off so early. It’s completely obvious, so much so that anyone who disagree with Kenji is clearly blind and deaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2020 Having watched the goal again a couple of times I think he meant it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 People talking as if he scored a volley from the corner flag, he was in the box at slight angle, shaped his body as if he was aiming for the goal and was looking at the goal when he cushioned it into the net, it's not that inconceivable to imagine that he meant it, only people who disagree are those who can't take it that he's already proving them wrong. Even if he says he didn't mean it he's probably just being modest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 That goal was pure filth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Anyone actually thinks that pass infront of goal was ment as a shot? Genuine question. It's frankly bizarre that you can mistake a shot on goal as a pass? Have you been drinking? Genuine question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 for me he clearly means the goal, was nobody in the box to put it on the head for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Given that it was his first game for a few months and first for us, I was very impressed with Traoré. We now have another skilful player. He will be frustrating but likewise will be able to do stuff that most of the rest (bar Jack) can’t. BTW it was a shot not a cross. Edited September 24, 2020 by MikeMcKenna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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