messi11 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Bet he's thinking "who the hell is gerrard" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfLeonBailey31 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I would like to see Carney start to get involved at least as a regular sub. The reports that he's not any closer to signing a new contract has me concerned and signals to me that he wants some playing time. He could be huge under SG's tutelage and I really want to see him stay here long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, TheLegendOfLeonBailey31 said: I would like to see Carney start to get involved at least as a regular sub. The reports that he's not any closer to signing a new contract has me concerned and signals to me that he wants some playing time. He could be huge under SG's tutelage and I really want to see him stay here long term. I think age won't be a factor for Stevie G - I think it's how good you are right now. We can't keep every 18 year old hot shot - unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 It'll be interesting what happens with Carney, I'd like to see him getting some game time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 does he only have 18 months left on his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, CVByrne said: It'll be interesting what happens with Carney, I'd like to see him getting some game time. Me too and I'm liking him having more competition for the blue eyed boy limelight adoration expectency etc, the Ramsey's and Tim I, hope they all drive eachother to the very top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, CVByrne said: It'll be interesting what happens with Carney, I'd like to see him getting some game time. As would I. But then wanting continous progression doesn't always go with giving 17 year old kids minutes on the pitch. I would prefer to get the likes of Carney involved and develop them but it's a fine balance to do that and still make us competitive. Edited November 22, 2021 by DCJonah 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 20/11/2021 at 23:47, TheLegendOfLeonBailey31 said: I would like to see Carney start to get involved at least as a regular sub. The reports that he's not any closer to signing a new contract has me concerned and signals to me that he wants some playing time. He could be huge under SG's tutelage and I really want to see him stay here long term. Maybe the club are waiting for him to sign before he gets game time. Not sure its good business for the club to give him minutes and he doesn't stay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: Maybe the club are waiting for him to sign before he gets game time. Not sure its good business for the club to give him minutes and he doesn't stay A very good point. From what I saw of him against brentford, he's not quite ready as much as everyone on Twitter thinks he is. Whats the point of us giving him minutes for his development if it's to the detriment of the team if he wants out? Also, I'd rather give A. Ramsey the time on the pitch as I think he's just as good. He's clearly got talent but he needs a loan...or three... get him out there playing games and bring him back when he's 20/21 to see if we can get him into the first team. I still don't think we're using the loan system well enough. Chelsea do it right, just look at Mount, Gallagher, Abraham. There has been no rush to get them into the first team at 18/19. They get them out on loan until they're 21 (if not more) and then take a view on them. I'd love us to send a player out on loan, just once, to the championship and for them to have a really great season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: A very good point. From what I saw of him against brentford, he's not quite ready as much as everyone on Twitter thinks he is. Whats the point of us giving him minutes for his development if it's to the detriment of the team if he wants out? Also, I'd rather give A. Ramsey the time on the pitch as I think he's just as good. He's clearly got talent but he needs a loan...or three... get him out there playing games and bring him back when he's 20/21 to see if we can get him into the first team. I still don't think we're using the loan system well enough. Chelsea do it right, just look at Mount, Gallagher, Abraham. There has been no rush to get them into the first team at 18/19. They get them out on loan until they're 21 (if not more) and then take a view on them. I'd love us to send a player out on loan, just once, to the championship and for them to have a really great season. Are you my assistant manager on FM by any chance? He is always suggesting that I send every single youngster on loan. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Are you my assistant manager on FM by any chance? He is always suggesting that I send every single youngster on loan. Assistant to the manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 20/11/2021 at 22:47, TheLegendOfLeonBailey31 said: I would like to see Carney start to get involved at least as a regular sub. The reports that he's not any closer to signing a new contract has me concerned and signals to me that he wants some playing time. He could be huge under SG's tutelage and I really want to see him stay here long term. Didn't one of our previous managers have a stand off with a youth player, who did the same.....and the manager said "You won't play until you sign a contract " I seem to remember something like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Impressive tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Impressive tonight Really? I didn’t think it was as good as usual, he’s obviously head and shoulders above most but didn’t think this was his best. Edited November 22, 2021 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Really? I didn’t think it was as good as usual, he’s obviously head and shoulders above most but didn’t think this was his best. I thought he tracked back well and really came to life at the end, he’s always a bit lax though which is why I think he might struggle to get an opportunity in the first team, polar opposite to Ramsey in that respect but still The lad is class 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: Really? I didn’t think it was as good as usual, he’s obviously head and shoulders above most but didn’t think this was his best. 3 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: I thought he tracked back well and really came to life at the end, he’s always a bit lax though which is why I think he might struggle to get an opportunity in the first team, polar opposite to Ramsey in that respect but still The lad is class Thought it was a mixed bag from him. Some moments (along with Iroegbunam) of pure class mixed with some laziness. One thing I think Gerrard can help him with is his decision making once he's turned into space. 2 or 3 times tonight he took the wrong option when there was a chance in the making. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, TRO said: Didn't one of our previous managers have a stand off with a youth player, who did the same.....and the manager said "You won't play until you sign a contract " I seem to remember something like that. Hepburn Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Still think he will be a better player at senior level as a 10 or as inside forward coming off the left rather than an 8 while he is still developing. Has the potential to do magical things but is still too lax at times and liable to give the ball away in dangerous areas which isn't ideal as a central midfielder. There is no doubt that if he has the potential to be world class but there is plenty of work to do and plenty that can go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Still think he will be a better player at senior level as a 10 or as inside forward coming off the left rather than an 8 while he is still developing. Has the potential to do magical things but is still too lax at times and liable to give the ball away in dangerous areas which isn't ideal as a central midfielder. There is no doubt that if he has the potential to be world class but there is plenty of work to do and plenty that can go wrong. Yeah he’s an incredible talent but I can’t make out his position, there are currently positives and negatives to a number of positions for him. Hopefully Gerrard, Delaney and Gerrard’s team can really mould him and find that right position. It’s that rawness that may struggle to get him any decent minutes for the first team in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Zatman said: Hepburn Murphy Wow, there's one for the players you forgot existed thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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