bose Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 hours ago, TRO said: Dougie is passive and not a natural aggressor. Nah there you’re way off. He’s certainly not passive and to me he is aggressive as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted January 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2022 Honestly think he's been our best and most important player this season. Without him we're a shambles both in attack and defence. He's the glue that holds our team together. Need to get that contract sorted ASAP. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 When he isn't there, we're half a side moving from defence to midfield. No one else has the ability or composure to do it for us on the ball. He's better at it than Bissouma as well. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Only one willing to come short and take the ball of the defence. You need players like that I your team to win games. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: When he isn't there, we're half a side moving from defence to midfield. No one else has the ability or composure to do it for us on the ball. He's better at it than Bissouma as well. It can't be understated how important that is, especially for a team like us who are looking to keep possession more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Without being unkind, he’s honestly our weak link right now. He’s tidy and his positional awareness good but he’s very casual in and out of possession which frustrates me immensely. I don’t dislike him at all but we can certainly improve our No6 area. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Without being unkind, he’s honestly our weak link right now. He’s tidy and his positional awareness good but he’s very casual in and out of possession which frustrates me immensely. I don’t dislike him at all but we can certainly improve our No6 area. He’s tidy in possession and can pull the strings and dictate possession, but it’s all dependant on the style of opposition , he’s way to passive when defending and unwilling to engage opponents, how may tackles did he put in today? Mcginn won the ball 9 times, he never backs him self to win the ball, Not doubting his quality but there are certain games that just don’t suit him especially at 6 , if we get european football at some point he might excel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpablosaliceband Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Does anyone actually have any idea what the situation is with his contract? I can’t recall any press about him being offered a new contract or refusing to sign one. There is normally some noise but it’s been radio silence. He definitely merits a new contract, to protect his value as much as anything else, so the assumption would be that he’s said no. Even if we sell him in the summer with 12 months left, we will take a hit on his value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwivillan Posted January 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, gwi1890 said: how may tackles did he put in today? 3 which was =3rd with Cash, Konsa, Ramsey. Mcginn 6 Buendia 4. He had 2nd most interceptions with 2. Digne made 3. This is a silly attempt at a dig at Luiz. Some people wanted Mcginn sold after he didn't play vs Manure. I just don't understand the desire to find negatives with players after every game even after a positive result Edited January 23, 2022 by Kiwivillan 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie k Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 i think we all would be happy with an upgrade at number 6 and at the same time be happy with carney and luiz compete with jj and sjm for the other 2 "no8" positions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 with both the links to midfielders earlier, I think that the club is expecting him to not sign an extension and is preparing for his departure in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) As someone who isn't Luiz's biggest fan, the data shows that we've been performing much better this season when Luiz plays than not. Edited January 23, 2022 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: As someone who isn't Luiz's biggest fan, the data shows that we've been performing much better this season when Luiz plays than not. I think that's true since the Covid break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: 3 which was =3rd with Cash, Konsa, Ramsey. Mcginn 6 Buendia 4. He had 2nd most interceptions with 2. Digne made 3. This is a silly attempt at a dig at Luiz. Some people wanted Mcginn sold after he didn't play vs Manure. I just don't understand the desire to find negatives with players after every game even after a positive result I gave him more positives than negatives mate, he just doesn’t engage enough more my liking, but he’s still a QUALITY player, I’d just like more steel along side him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I don't understand what people keep saying engaging for. Are they expecting him to be like Roy Keane smashing into tackles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: I gave him more positives than negatives mate, he just doesn’t engage enough more my liking, but he’s still a QUALITY player, I’d just like more steel along side him. This is it for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: As someone who isn't Luiz's biggest fan, the data shows that we've been performing much better this season when Luiz plays than not. Really?! Didn’t we have a 100% record under gerrard when Nakamba was in the number 6 role? perhaps your point is that luiz played as an 8 in those games. Either way though, if Nakamba weren’t injured then luiz would not a merit being in the starting 11 as both McGinn and Ramsey have outperformed him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, JPJCB said: Really?! Didn’t we have a 100% record under gerrard when Nakamba was in the number 6 role? perhaps your point is that luiz played as an 8 in those games. Either way though, if Nakamba weren’t injured then luiz would not a merit being in the starting 11 as both McGinn and Ramsey have outperformed him Our record with Nakamba under Gerrard is a 60% win record actually. Also, yes I'm just talking about games where Luiz played regardless of which role he played in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, JPJCB said: Really?! Didn’t we have a 100% record under gerrard when Nakamba was in the number 6 role? perhaps your point is that luiz played as an 8 in those games. Either way though, if Nakamba weren’t injured then luiz would not a merit being in the starting 11 as both McGinn and Ramsey have outperformed him McGinn and Ramsey play a different role to Luiz. A midfield of Nakamba, McGinn and JJ has lost a dimension from a midfield of Nakamba, McGinn / JJ & Luiz. Our top 3 would soon get completely isolated because Nakamba, JJ and McGinn just don't have the ability to carry / pass the ball out of defence so we'd resort to hoofing it down the channels again. To be fair until we bring in another midfielder and can play Luiz, JJ and McGinn in their natural positions (and sorry Nakamba is OK as a back up but he is not at the level we need in that pivotal role to compete at the next level) it is pretty pointless discussing which one gets dropped because it depends what skills the new No 6 has. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 No problem with his performance yesterday. We controlled the game in midfield first half and were resolute in holding on to our lead in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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