Jareth Posted July 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 16, 2020 FFS - yes he's shite in the prem, but he got us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Just watched the miss, oh my lordy lord. On part with that side foot miss earlier in the season, terrible. Edited July 16, 2020 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jareth said: FFS - yes he's shite in the prem, but he got us there. Lol, no he didn’t. He was rubbish for most of last season too. Had about 4 good games in the championship, one of which was the playoff final. Ill be disappointed if he plays for us next season. I think he’s trash. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 It’s an awful miss but I much prefer to watch us with El Ghazi in the side than without. He’s one of the few players in our squad who actually looks like he might make something happen and takes up good positions. He’s missed a lot of chances but if he was the sort of player who tucked them away he’d be in double figures for goals this season and on his way to a top half team in the summer. Hes got potential and he’s one I’d rather we stick with than play Trezeguet who genuinely looks like he’s not sure what he’s trying to do most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 55 minutes ago, jjaacckk91 said: Pretty sure he has a long highlight(or not) reel of misses. The number of times it's came to him from a cross and he's either missed it or made a poor contact is very high. Strange as I always thought he would bury them in the championship. Even if he misses them he is the I ly ayer on our team who will get on the end of them so he has to play. Trez, Samatta and Davis would never have gotten near that is the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Ken McNaughts Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Despite being 6’2”, he never jumps to win a header, just to do a (bad) impression of someone trying to win a header. I agree with Tim Cahill and many of the comments here – that streak of physical trepidation seemed to really mess him up with that simple chance. Needed to say to himself: “This ball is going in the net and, if need be, I am going in the net and Jordan Pickford is going in the net.” Didn’t quite have it in him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 So sick of him tbh but his miss is not the reason we are getting relegated. There's about a 100 things that have cost us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 he's a bang average championship level player Imo, I'm not trying to be nasty, I just honestly think that's his level. (Top 10 championship level I reckon) Would be OK with him remaining next season, but he needs to be a squad player, we need two new and GOOD wingers critically. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: he's a bang average championship level player Imo, I'm not trying to be nasty, I just honestly think that's his level. (Top 10 championship level I reckon) Would be OK with him remaining next season, but he needs to be a squad player, we need two new and GOOD wingers critically. He is not good enough in my view. He has the attributes but just does not pull it all together. To play his position you either have to be unbelievable in attack or fairly strong in attack and defence and work hard. He is neither of these things. I would always pick Trez ahead of him for attitude and bravery alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, MaVilla said: Just watched the miss, oh my lordy lord. On part with that side foot miss earlier in the season, terrible. Seemed harder to miss it than score it, which is what he should have done. Shocking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Gutless rubbish player. Don't want to see him again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, M_Afro said: He is not good enough in my view. He has the attributes but just does not pull it all together. To play his position you either have to be unbelievable in attack or fairly strong in attack and defence and work hard. He is neither of these things. I would always pick Trez ahead of him for attitude and bravery alone. Trez is not brave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Lets face it all of our forward players are not Premier League quality. It must be so demoralizing for the rest of the team seeing so little awareness up front along with dire finishing, positional sense, run making, pace or heading ability. I mean what do you do exactly when that's the case? .............. Lose a lot i guess as we've seen! In the Premier League games our forwards have scored as follows: Trezeguet - 5 Wesley - 5 El-Ghazi -4 Samatta - 1 Davies - 0 Defenders have scored 6 between them & Midfielders have scored 16 So our midfielders have scored more goals than our entire forwards / wingers combined. That should not be the case and highlights the problems we have. Of course part of it is the way we play but that is a shocking number of goals from 5 forwards combined (15) An average of 3 each in a whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Lets face it all of our forward players are not Premier League quality. It must be so demoralizing for the rest of the team seeing so little awareness up front along with dire finishing, positional sense, run making, pace or heading ability. I mean what do you do exactly when that's the case? .............. Lose a lot i guess as we've seen! In the Premier League games our forwards have scored as follows: Trezeguet - 5 Wesley - 5 El-Ghazi -4 Samatta - 1 Davies - 0 Defenders have scored 6 between them & Midfielders have scored 16 So our midfielders have scored more goals than our entire forwards / wingers combined. That should not be the case and highlights the problems we have. Of course part of it is the way we play but that is a shocking number of goals from 5 forwards combined (15) An average of 3 each in a whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2020 Looked very much like he was offside in the buildup from the lay-off by Davis, which VAR would have checked if he’d scored. Doesn’t excuse the miss though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC44 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Wow reading some of the comments from last night, some people need to be banned from commenting so soon after games. How people can let their emotions take over that much is unbelievable, it’s a game of football... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Should he be condemned for missing so many big chances or praised for being the only player who gets on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, AVFC44 said: Wow reading some of the comments from last night, some people need to be banned from commenting so soon after games. How people can let their emotions take over that much is unbelievable, it’s a game of football... El Ghazi has been a hate figure for some on here for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Zatman said: Should he be condemned for missing so many big chances or praised for being the only player who gets on them No point getting on the end of them of you miss them though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, danceoftheshamen said: Lets face it all of our forward players are not Premier League quality. It must be so demoralizing for the rest of the team seeing so little awareness up front along with dire finishing, positional sense, run making, pace or heading ability. I mean what do you do exactly when that's the case? .............. Lose a lot i guess as we've seen! In the Premier League games our forwards have scored as follows: Trezeguet - 5 Wesley - 5 El-Ghazi -4 Samatta - 1 Davies - 0 Defenders have scored 6 between them & Midfielders have scored 16 So our midfielders have scored more goals than our entire forwards / wingers combined. That should not be the case and highlights the problems we have. Of course part of it is the way we play but that is a shocking number of goals from 5 forwards combined (15) An average of 3 each in a whole season. DS did a number of interviews after the closing of the transfer window saying that we played a system where the goals wouldn’t just come from the forwards. Problem is, I think that was on the assumption that a) there would be more goals all round and b) the forwards would score far more than they have. Both assumptions were naive. Wes, Trez and AEG (with Davies as backup when the season started) does not look PL standard. It was a massive and rather stupid punt to expect these three to share twenty goals between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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