Okonokos Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: I cannot understand why they hate him. He won us that final and whilst mcginn won man of the match he was our best player that day. He broke his fast and showed he was completely committed to this club even though he wasn't even our own player. He was absolutely sensational that day. They couldn't cope with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I always think that El Ghazi gets extra stick because he 'comes across' as thinking that he's better than he is or cocky. That invisible impression that some fans get and they relentlessly stick to it unfortunately. I think some of the criticism he gets is very fair because it analyses his severe inconsistency etc, a lot of the rest of it is pure muck and drivel. The types that should have a ban on owning keyboards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Glad to hear he was decent last night. Sad to hear about the abuse he got despite that. Idiots everywhere. May have not reached his potential, but still got us into the PL. It does come across as though he doesn't try when the going gets tough, but fans hurling abuse at him isn't going to correct that. Disgraceful behavior that should result in their accounts being blocked/ deleted. Would be great if he could ram the insults down their throats and come on to score against Liverpool. Can't see it happening, as I doubt he'll be on the bench, but that sort of one off performance could really inject some confidence, assuming he isn't too jaded by the club thanks to what a minority of idiots have said to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) At the end of the day, whatever people think of him, he will always be the player who faked an injury when things weren't going well for us on the pitch, when we sorely needed our players to stand up and be counted. Villa fans have shown an unbelievable capacity for forgiveness in the past for a whole host of things - consistent poor performances, transfer requests, being literally spat at - but for me (and others, I'd venture), that act of hiding away and not being willing to put in the effort to help the team in such an overtly cowardly way is something I can never forgive. I don't agree with or condone direct abuse of the players over social media. But nor do I want him anywhere near our first team ever again. Doesn't deserve to wear the shirt in my opinion. Flog him ASAP to the highest bidder and give his place on the bench to someone who actually takes pride in playing for this club. Edited October 3, 2020 by est1874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 2 hours ago, MotoMkali said: I cannot understand why they hate him. He won us that final and whilst mcginn won man of the match he was our best player that day. He broke his fast and showed he was completely committed to this club even though he wasn't even our own player. Because he doesn't play with a wide grin on his face 24/7 and/or run around like a headless chicken to show his pashun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Villa fans do my head in sometimes. We lost 1 game and all of a sudden it’s the end of the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farlz Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 59 minutes ago, est1874 said: At the end of the day, whatever people think of him, he will always be the player who faked an injury when things weren't going well for us on the pitch, when we sorely needed our players to stand up and be counted. Villa fans have shown an unbelievable capacity for forgiveness in the past for a whole host of things - consistent poor performances, transfer requests, being literally spat at - but for me (and others, I'd venture), that act of hiding away and not being willing to put in the effort to help the team in such an overtly cowardly way is something I can never forgive. I don't agree with or condone direct abuse of the players over social media. But nor do I want him anywhere near our first team ever again. Doesn't deserve to wear the shirt in my opinion. Flog him ASAP to the highest bidder and give his place on the bench to someone who actually takes pride in playing for this club. No, he will be the player who broke his fast for Ramadan to help us in the play off final 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 59 minutes ago, est1874 said: At the end of the day, whatever people think of him, he will always be the player who faked an injury when things weren't going well for us on the pitch, when we sorely needed our players to stand up and be counted. Villa fans have shown an unbelievable capacity for forgiveness in the past for a whole host of things - consistent poor performances, transfer requests, being literally spat at - but for me (and others, I'd venture), that act of hiding away and not being willing to put in the effort to help the team in such an overtly cowardly way is something I can never forgive. I don't agree with or condone direct abuse of the players over social media. But nor do I want him anywhere near our first team ever again. Doesn't deserve to wear the shirt in my opinion. Flog him ASAP to the highest bidder and give his place on the bench to someone who actually takes pride in playing for this club. Serious question, what do you know about his pride in playing for Aston Villa beyond your speculation? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 Looks fairly proud to play for Villa here I'd say. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post abdulaziz1 Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 I don’t like it when the fans turn on a player this way, especially if he had his moments, or in Lansbury’s case never done a bad thing towards the club. It’s not their mistake if they aren’t good enough. Everyone has the right to give his opinion on a player performances and abilities. But as long as he isn’t problematic or things like that I don’t think we shall say things to them. What would that give impression to players? El Ghazi has his moment in the playoff final, that doesn’t mean he’ll be a guaranteed starter or even means that we should keep him. But we can’t keep insulting players that way. El Ghazi, Jota, Lansbury, Taylor, Hause and Nyland. All were professionals and never done problems. They done what they can whenever they were asked to. We need to upgrade our squad, but it’s not those players fault that we got them in the first place. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 6 hours ago, est1874 said: At the end of the day, whatever people think of him, he will always be the player who faked an injury when things weren't going well for us on the pitch, when we sorely needed our players to stand up and be counted. Villa fans have shown an unbelievable capacity for forgiveness in the past for a whole host of things - consistent poor performances, transfer requests, being literally spat at - but for me (and others, I'd venture), that act of hiding away and not being willing to put in the effort to help the team in such an overtly cowardly way is something I can never forgive. I don't agree with or condone direct abuse of the players over social media. But nor do I want him anywhere near our first team ever again. Doesn't deserve to wear the shirt in my opinion. Flog him ASAP to the highest bidder and give his place on the bench to someone who actually takes pride in playing for this club. Haha I was just coming in to post about the time people believed this rubbish and someone actually posted this utter bullshit. Amazing. Thanks for being that guy. We needed a solid example of the sort of crap Anwar gets. 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 6 hours ago, est1874 said: At the end of the day, whatever people think of him, he will always be the player who faked an injury when things weren't going well for us on the pitch, when we sorely needed our players to stand up and be counted. Villa fans have shown an unbelievable capacity for forgiveness in the past for a whole host of things - consistent poor performances, transfer requests, being literally spat at - but for me (and others, I'd venture), that act of hiding away and not being willing to put in the effort to help the team in such an overtly cowardly way is something I can never forgive. I don't agree with or condone direct abuse of the players over social media. But nor do I want him anywhere near our first team ever again. Doesn't deserve to wear the shirt in my opinion. Flog him ASAP to the highest bidder and give his place on the bench to someone who actually takes pride in playing for this club. Do you have evidence for this? I suffer from migraines and something as obscure as lighting can set it off. I get blurred vision for a few minutes. I suspect it was something similar. But if he's crap surely it's better he wasn't on the pitch anyway.??? El Ghazi's biggest problem is he lacks belief in himself. He ends up trying doing things he's not capable of. He needs to relax keep it simple and show some belief in himself. That run against Stoke he had a couple of similar moments against Spurs but his head dropped when he got tackled the next time and that was that. He needs to work on his physical attributes too. He's a specimen if he was the fittest player at the club off the ball he'd be so good for us. Tactically he is poor and thankfully this can be improved easily but with rote memorization. However I think that move to Olimpiacos will be perfect for him and he gets Champions League football. Even if it's a loan. Until he impresses himself I fear for him and his career it's not going to go anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greenfly Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 6 hours ago, est1874 said: At the end of the day, whatever people think of him, he will always be the player who faked an injury when things weren't going well for us on the pitch, when we sorely needed our players to stand up and be counted. Villa fans have shown an unbelievable capacity for forgiveness in the past for a whole host of things - consistent poor performances, transfer requests, being literally spat at - but for me (and others, I'd venture), that act of hiding away and not being willing to put in the effort to help the team in such an overtly cowardly way is something I can never forgive. I don't agree with or condone direct abuse of the players over social media. But nor do I want him anywhere near our first team ever again. Doesn't deserve to wear the shirt in my opinion. Flog him ASAP to the highest bidder and give his place on the bench to someone who actually takes pride in playing for this club. "At the end of the day, whatever people think of him, he will always be the player who faked an injury when things weren't going well for us on the pitch, when we sorely needed our players to stand up and be counted." When was this? I don't remember this happening at all. He's always looked like he cares, and he's contributed some absolutely crucial moments for us as has been mentioned above. "Villa fans have shown an unbelievable capacity for forgiveness in the past for a whole host of things - consistent poor performances, transfer requests, being literally spat at" Being spat at is completely different. Anyone who does that is a reprehensible character, but it's hardly something that happens often (and let's be honest, whenever it does they're usually driven to it; it's not an immediate reaction). Hating somebody, and I mean actual hate to the point of abuse, because of inconsistency or wanting out is unacceptable. If someone is struggling for confidence, how is undermining them helping in any way? And transfer requests are part of the game. Players have a right to leave if they want, as long as they go about it right. Even if they don't, criticize their methods, but don't abuse them for it. And yes, that includes Delph. He had every right to leave if he wanted, and we're allowed to criticize the unprofessional way he did it. But to actually hate the guy for it and threaten him is completely unnecessary. "I don't agree with or condone direct abuse of the players over social media." You just called him a coward on social media. Please try to understand why that's wrong. "But nor do I want him anywhere near our first team ever again. Doesn't deserve to wear the shirt in my opinion." Not wanting him to play for us because you think we have better players is one thing - I agree, he's not likely to be first choice anymore, because Trez and Grealish are ahead of him currently. There's no need to frame it like this, though. Here's something that will cut deep - El Ghazi, Lansbury and Hause, all the players who have deactivated social media channels because of abuse today, have done more for the club than most of us here ever will just by virtue of having played for it. What they get paid for doing it is completely irrelevant. Show them some basic humanity, it's literally the least you can do. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 He's a confidence player, and right now he has none of it mainly due to our own fans. On his day he's unplayable and more than capable of putting a performance in. I'm looking forward to seeing this El Ghazi again, he was absolutely brilliant on this night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 On 01/10/2020 at 21:12, rodders0223 said: Get rid of this absolute mug. On 01/10/2020 at 21:06, TrentVilla said: Just awful this evening. If there is a decision to make he will always make the wrong one. I also feel like he is playing for himself these days, not sure if he is trying to impress or get a move but embed constantly tries the Hollywood option. oh and as always total lack of bottle. Cant wait to see the back of him. What @Sulberto21 was getting at I think. One of these posts is just abuse and keyboard warrior like. The other is a description of why the poster doesn't what the player at our club. These viler one liners of personal abuse are the lowest of the low. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 He's done good stuff and bad stuff. I won't dwell on what's happened before, but I just don't think he's good enough. Get rid. We got a bunch of players still, that are championship quality, that we haven't gotten rid of. He's in that group. Sell at first opportunity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 He didn't fake an inury ffs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, wilko154 said: He's a confidence player, and right now he has none of it mainly due to our own fans. On his day he's unplayable and more than capable of putting a performance in. I'm looking forward to seeing this El Ghazi again, he was absolutely brilliant on this night. He has never been unplayable. Not by any stretch of the imagination. He’s had a handful of good games, notably the play off final and Albion away. He was largely poor in the championship and seems to have gone backwards since. No surprises he can’t make the squad now. He needs a move. Not cut out for this standard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: He has never been unplayable. Not by any stretch of the imagination. He’s had a handful of good games, notably the play off final and Albion away. He was largely poor in the championship and seems to have gone backwards since. No surprises he can’t make the squad now. He needs a move. Not cut out for this standard. 100% no room for sentimentality with any of the players that we need to upgrade. However, the state of people on this planet that now have a platform at their finger tips to absolute destroy peoples souls. I wonder how high the average person is on the evil spectrum. Back to Anwar, we need him gone for the good of the club and for himself too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, wilko154 said: He's a confidence player, and right now he has none of it mainly due to our own fans. On his day he's unplayable and more than capable of putting a performance in. I'm looking forward to seeing this El Ghazi again, he was absolutely brilliant on this night. Spot on. Been saying this for weeks. I have always suffered confidence issues in my life. I’m kind of ok now. But I’d just stop believing in myself even though I was good enough and it cost me opportunities, it stopped me being my best. When I have seen AEG the past few months he has had the same dead eyes and stare I used to hold. It is **** awful to feel that way and we should be supporting him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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