Ingram85 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) Just don’t be shit and now you’re brilliant lol. He was ok today, far from rubbish and he had a better game than last week but that is all. Fingers crossed his form continues to improve. Brilliant lol Edited August 13, 2022 by Ingram85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: He was not brilliant today though? He played 2 good passes, won the ball well once or twice. Then scuppered every single other attack when he got the ball because he plays with zero urgency at all but at the same time rushes every attack. Crosses and shoots from awful positions. Takes forever when he receives it letting the opponents defence gets set. Never moves it quickly to create an advantage. The system doesn't help him. It's very difficult for any midfielder not just Sjm to pass instinctively, because the quick switch is invariably to the wings, which is rarely an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 He was excellent today... Both our goals came from McGinn tackles and quick passes up to Watkins in the right channel (first goal) and Buendia in the hole (second goal)... ...but let's just focus on the passes that didn't go through and call him shit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, KMitch said: ...but let's just focus on the passes that didn't go through and call him shit. Let's just ignore them when he does them very regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, Stratvillan said: The system doesn't help him. It's very difficult for any midfielder not just Sjm to pass instinctively, because the quick switch is invariably to the wings, which is rarely an option. Completely agree with this. Playing Coutinho, Ramsay & him might get us through a few games, but I don't think that's a long term tactic that will be successful. I thought he was pretty good today, but still thought that Ramsay and Kamara had better games than he did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Tom13 said: People saying he has haters... I think he just has people who see him for what he is, and his fanboys can't take it and label them haters. Same with the Hulk on the marvel message board I post on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 hours ago, KMitch said: He was excellent today... Both our goals came from McGinn tackles and quick passes up to Watkins in the right channel (first goal) and Buendia in the hole (second goal)... ...but let's just focus on the passes that didn't go through and call him shit. They resulted in the opposition getting up the pitch and having attacks. Better opposition and they score. He still hits too many aimless balls when we’re in good positions. however…. Once he cut the Hollywood passes out and kept it simple he improved. This was from about the 20th minute. Oh and btw I know you’re a McGinn fanboy but the second goal came initially from Bailey making the tackle which McGinn played forward from the resulting loose ball. It wasn’t McGinn who made the tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Hilarious that people can’t say he had a very good game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Complete **** joke that he played well today. Just papers over cracks. I’m furious right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Complete **** joke that he played well today. Just papers over cracks. I’m furious right now. Keep going in more threads, they're getting wittier each time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: Keep going in more threads, they're getting wittier each time. #Gerrardout We need to make this movement strong. You with me brother ? Edited August 14, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Not been his biggest fan recently, but he was very good yesterday. Gave the ball away a couple of times in the first 20 or so, but after that he was very good. More of the same please John. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, KMitch said: He was excellent today... Both our goals came from McGinn tackles and quick passes up to Watkins in the right channel (first goal) and Buendia in the hole (second goal)... ...but let's just focus on the passes that didn't go through and call him shit. He has a good range of passing for all the talk about his long balls it's the best part of his game Against a low block he will do the business. He's a high risk passer with good technique and good weight on a pass that needs time and space. Against the other 14 odd teams in the league he's bang average because he can't or refuses to get on the ball in tight spaces, is slow , ponderous and has the agility of a brick. Though his arse did look less pronounced yesterday. Body fat or muscle he looks leaner either way. Edited August 14, 2022 by rodders0223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just want to bump the thread, as after re watching highlights and analysis, he was actually very good. Pass completion rate was something like 88 percent and he won a high percentage of duels etc. It's a shame his thread only gets active when he is shite. Hopefully he kicks on from here and brings the SUPER back. Good Captains performance for his first home game as one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Just want to bump the thread, as after re watching highlights and analysis, he was actually very good. Pass completion rate was something like 88 percent and he won a high percentage of duels etc. It's a shame his thread only gets active when he is shite. Hopefully he kicks on from here and brings the SUPER back. Good Captains performance for his first home game as one. JV, the masses have spoken, he was shit, will always be shit and needs replacing ASAP with someone in fashion who will later become shit. He's shit. Edited August 17, 2022 by Steero113 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Just want to bump the thread, as after re watching highlights and analysis, he was actually very good. Pass completion rate was something like 88 percent and he won a high percentage of duels etc. It's a shame his thread only gets active when he is shite. Hopefully he kicks on from here and brings the SUPER back. Good Captains performance for his first home game as one. Everton had one fit centre midfielder who then went off injured, if McGinn cant outperform Alex Iwobi in centre midfield then its a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Just want to bump the thread, as after re watching highlights and analysis, he was actually very good. Pass completion rate was something like 88 percent and he won a high percentage of duels etc. It's a shame his thread only gets active when he is shite. Hopefully he kicks on from here and brings the SUPER back. Good Captains performance for his first home game as one. "we've got McGinn, Quite good John McGinn" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: Everton had one fit centre midfielder who then went off injured, if McGinn cant outperform Alex Iwobi in centre midfield then its a problem So did he perform well or not? The effort to put a negative spin on absolutely everything is ridiculous. Personally, I didn't even notice him much during the game. As i said, I watched analysis and highlights, and it pointed out that his stats and play were very encouraging. Which is surely a good thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: So did he perform well or not? The effort to put a negative spin on absolutely everything is ridiculous. Personally, I didn't even notice him much during the game. As i said, I watched analysis and highlights, and it pointed out that his stats and play were very encouraging. Which is surely a good thing? He was ok, nothing bad and nothing spectacular but as Everton had no midfield its not really fair to judge his midfield performance against a team with one centre midfielder who played 33 minutes before injury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 He had a good game and was integral in the win. If he can play like that every week he'll be OK and can hopefully win round a few of the doubters. Ramsay also had a decent game but I still think those two together leaves us too exposed in transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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