Stevo985 Posted October 17, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Dave J said: Well you can say this - but we never tested the water did we - who knows maybe the lure of a return to VP might have swung it? Didn't we? I have no idea. To be honest I'd be very VERY surprised if we didn't. We were obviously in the market for a similar player, having bought a veteran deep lying midfielder from a Premier League club. I imagine it's very possible that we made casual enquiries and were told he had no intention of dropping to the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Whelen is pretty awful but the role he plays in makes it almost impossible not to be. Jedinak suffers from the same problem in that area. We talk of 4-4-2 but really the role these two play in is so defensive that it's effectively 5-3-2. Neither of them have the legs to do box to box and, whilst I think both of their passing abilities are horrific, the options they are presented with are limited due to the disconnect between the central midfield and the strikers. When did you last see a CM effectively link up with a striker rather than a winger? Hourihane has some success because he can keep up with play. So whilst I recognise the need for a defensive minded midfielder, I don't like basically just playing another defender under the guise of being a midfielder. We have to trust the defence to be able to cope and get more bodies, more energy and more creativity in the middle of the park. Onomah could perhaps do it, Lansbury has the energy if not the discipline, maybe Hourihane will do it if Grealish returns. The role Whelen and Jedinak are given is never going to be successful or exciting but will often stifle our own attacking needs or lead to sloppy mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Didn't we? I have no idea. To be honest I'd be very VERY surprised if we didn't. We were obviously in the market for a similar player, having bought a veteran deep lying midfielder from a Premier League club. I imagine it's very possible that we made casual enquiries and were told he had no intention of dropping to the Championship. Ok ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just **** off. Worst midfielder we've had in years - and that's really saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What an absolute useless player. Such a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2017 You have to wonder why he's playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 21, 2017 Moderator Share Posted October 21, 2017 Glenn Wheelchair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Makes Jedinak look like Usain Bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 One bad mistake, solid otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 A silly foul for their goal, and sloppy in possession at times. But he does break up play, and when we play the pressing game he does help bring the team further up the field. Still wouldn't mind seeing Lyden given a chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Glenn Wheelchair. Be careful your not allowed to nickname our players negatively on here whelan is dreadful really woeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 21, 2017 Moderator Share Posted October 21, 2017 Wheely woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Played well today, many forward passes even hit a couple first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 35 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Wheely woeful. Wheehay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockport_Villain Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Whilst I understand the frustration with some of his passes he is light years ahead of Jedinak. Jedinak passes more to the opposition than his own players. So for me, if it’s a choice its Whelan every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruLan Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 A mistake today and some terrific break up play and good forward passes. A good honest pro. One mistake and he's castigated, whereas Kodja never passes and often loses the ball yet he's revered 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What length contract is he on? Feels like both him and Jedi will be less than useless next season. And neither should be starters this season due to better options in the squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 A stupid free kick given away today but overall a solid performance. Seemed a bit more forward today than on previous occasions- either that was a instruction from Bruce or having a 3 man center mid gave him more support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, BruLan said: A mistake today and some terrific break up play and good forward passes. A good honest pro. One mistake and he's castigated, whereas Kodja never passes and often loses the ball yet he's revered To be fair Kodjia is frequently criticised which then sparks huge arguments from the people who feel you are not allowed to criticise anyone who scores goals. As you can see on the Kodjia thread today he is getting quite a lot of criticism and not many are arguing because he's not actually scoring at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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