Tommo_b Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Quote malfunction Edited September 8, 2018 by Tommo_b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Still think he is trying to force the owners hands into resigning Terry. ATM it seem to have backfired and with that left us and him in a terrible position. FWIW I think Terry would only be a stop gap solution either way, we needed more and better. Balance in defense is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 We knew this season was going to be unbearable before the takeover. But then we were handed a lifeline, one last chance with resources to get up and it just feels the negligence of not sorting out the defence will see us haemorrhage too many goals to compete to get up. next season we will be starting from scratch again with a very average squad, while another 3 teams with parachute money come down to scoop up the better players for their shot to get back up while FFP restrains us no doubt. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I actually think Terry 'would' have come back. I also think he came to us last season as Bruce offered a part coaching role for the defence, it didn't look to bad last season. With the new owners coming in it was a bit of a risk for Terry as he knows Bruce would probably be on his way, an what then for Terry, probably back of the que. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Oh yeah that old chestnut. TBH it's clear to me that Bruce had a small role in all of our transfer this window. And yet it is entirely his fault that we don't have any defenders? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 41 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: I get that and I am sure Bruce gets that, so I would hazard a guess there were mitigating circumstances that we are are not privileged too, otherwise why would he even have picked him in the first few games? I think the only people not privy to the the "Mitigating circumstances" still support the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 41 minutes ago, sne said: Still think he is trying to force the owners hands into resigning Terry. ATM it seem to have backfired and with that left us and him in a terrible position. FWIW I think Terry would only be a stop gap solution either way, we needed more and better. Balance in defense is a joke. I think they called his bluff. "There's a new Sheriff in Town" (Insert Wild Wild West music and photoshop the new boards faces onto cowboys here) and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Oh yeah that old chestnut. TBH it's clear to me that Bruce had a small role in all of our transfer this window. 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: However he lets Elphick go out on loan, a totally brainless decision. Elphick isn't great, but steady at this level, and at this point in time would be a welcomed option for us to have. Bruce is just utterly brainless in everything he does. I'm guessing Bruce is only involved in the transfers you don't agree with then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cjay Posted September 8, 2018 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2018 Personally i think until Bruce decides what sort of side he wants to be you will fall short promotion wise. As established before nobody is entirely certain what style you play. Warnock for all his faults has a way, he makes signings for that style and thats it, its not pretty but it works, the signings may not be exciting but they suit what he needs. Pulis the same, only have to look at Boro and there business this summer. He makes signings to fit his style. Wolves last summer with the quality was a bit different , but they fit the style Nuno wanted to play. But yours, do they fit? If your squad and signings dont fit the style it doesnt matter how good they are imo. El Ghazi, Grealish, McGinn etc, good ball players, probably want the ball on the ground as much as possible. But then you look at your defence, are they good ball playing defenders? If so great, if not then they will hoof whenever pressured. Kodjia and Abraham are both big tall players, able to handle a hoof, but surely its better to pick a style and stick, that way your players know whats expected and can train accordingly. Imo you have a bit of a contradiction player wise, ball players mixed with less able and thats why it makes it difficult to pinpoint your style, because it fluctuates depending on who is in possession or on the pitch. If Bruce had picked a style 2 years ago and signed players accordingly youd be promoted by now imo. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Whoever sanctioned Elphick's move and has left the Defence the way it is deserves the sack. Such a shambles. Edited September 8, 2018 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Whoever sanctioned Elphick's move and has left the Defence the way it is deserves the sack. Such a shambles. I know we have no one for the defence, but Elphick was not only poor he was a liabilty. One thing I don't blame Bruce for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 3 hours ago, villabromsgrove said: From the time that our new owners had a meeting with Bruce he had just over a month to sort four priority positions: Goalkeeper Centre Back Left Back Striker He didn't sign any one he regards as a usable CB, or a left back (although he came close), he didn't sign a reliable keeper, and he took a risky gamble on getting Abrahams which actually worked for him in squeaky bum time. We also picked up three midfielders and two bench quality keepers during this time. I'm not blaming Bruce for this failure, because I haven't a clue what was happening behind the scenes and who was actually making decisions, but it's left us with an embarrassingly unbalanced team. Bruce is left with only one option, which is to play planned attacking football. We'll have to score two or three goals in every game to pick up points this season. If we continue with Bruce's current 'do your best lads' football .... We're stuffed! precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: We knew this season was going to be unbearable before the takeover. But then we were handed a lifeline, one last chance with resources to get up and it just feels the negligence of not sorting out the defence will see us haemorrhage too many goals to compete to get up. next season we will be starting from scratch again with a very average squad, while another 3 teams with parachute money come down to scoop up the better players for their shot to get back up while FFP restrains us no doubt. we do seem to be creating a deja vu cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Should almost have a sack or back poll going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 hours ago, TRO said: we do seem to be creating a deja vu cycle. I'm sure I've heard that somewhere before. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Should almost have a sack or back poll going Back, sack and Crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Oh well. No Terry means that we will really see how much influence Bruce actually had last season in bringing the dressing room together. Will also be interesting to see what he does with Tuanzebe now. He either plays him at CB or takes responsibility for effectively wasting a loan opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Oh well. No Terry means that we will really see how much influence Bruce actually had last season in bringing the dressing room together. Will also be interesting to see what he does with Tuanzebe now. He either plays him at CB or takes responsibility for effectively wasting a loan opportunity. I have personally little doubt that Terry was responsible for this. I will stand corrected but has Jack not said that Terry was a huge influence on him.? As a person I have no truck whatsoever with Terry - as a professional footballer my respect for him went right off the scale last season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 He will be out before the end of the month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 hours ago, foreveryoung said: I know we have no one for the defence, but Elphick was not only poor he was a liabilty. One thing I don't blame Bruce for. Jedinak is better at CB than Elphick. Anyone that says otherwise has been half asleep watching Elphick games 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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