One For The Road Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 In summary I think he is being played out of position so he isnt able to show his true worth. Despite that we paid way too much for him. He is better than he looks atm, but never worth more than 10 mil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 13 hours ago, villaglint said: The bigger concern is how he fits in the side now we've gone to three in middle. He doesn't fit in the side because our midfielders are so bad. if we could play two in the middle then you could have mccormack as a number 10 but we have to play three midfielders to do the job of two good players. it's the reason we won't be promoted this season. that and appointing RDM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It looks like a classic case of spending money on a good player at this level without actually planning a system around him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Being played out of position so he needs to change his game as we shouldn't accommodate him, he is a good player and good players adapt to what's being asked of them, give him a bit of time and he'll get better hopefully. If not then he has to accept the bit part role and wait until January to see what Bruce does to the midfield hopefully freeing up Ross' more natural role or if it comes to it he can go I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 One has to wonder where we've been if the money spent on him (or Kodija) had been spent on a couple of midfielders. Easy to say in hindsight, but to most people it was pretty obvious that strengthening the midfield further was a bigger priority than making sure we had 7 or 8 first team striker on our books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 48 minutes ago, sne said: One has to wonder where we've been if the money spent on him (or Kodija) had been spent on a couple of midfielders. Easy to say in hindsight, but to most people it was pretty obvious that strengthening the midfield further was a bigger priority than making sure we had 7 or 8 first team striker on our books. Well I guess your probably right in terms of doing a head count- however what worries me is that 50% of this bunch are barely good enough at this level- let alone for the level we aspire too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Feel sorry for him He should the Creator behind/alongside a front man or a little deeper behind 2 front men. Unfortunately we dont have the midfielders needed to play him effectively (moreso now Bruce is using Hutton as RB - exposing our limited MF) 3 @ back 4 in MF would allow him his "off the striker" role but would be a brave move from Bruce Plus's Chester & Baker stay side by side in defence Bacuna/Jedi/Gardner combo with Amavi adding width on left -less defensive responsibilities Ayew has free roll all across the middle and can drop deep McC in natural position We'd have a more dependable Defence without Hutton Bacuna could drop back to help Elphick 4 across middle Bacuna & Amavi allowed to push on an energetic front 3 who could press high up The only concern would be against a disciplined opposition with good wide players pinning us back forcing us to hoofball because we have no ball movers in MF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I've noticed in a few occasions Ross has been urging our Midfield and defence to push up when we are on the back foot, for a "stocky and thick" forward; that shows a lot of footballing intelligence and I reckon he will have a big hand in us getting a play off spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted November 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hopefully gets his chance to play the no10 role as Ayew is suspended against Blackburn. With Adomah out too might see 2 no10s with Grealish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I was very impressed with him earlier in the season when he was playing on a more regular basis. I guess Bruce does not see him or Tsibola as starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I wouldnt't mind Grealish and RMc both playing the no10 role behind Kodija. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 3 hours ago, sne said: One has to wonder where we've been if the money spent on him (or Kodija) had been spent on a couple of midfielders. Easy to say in hindsight, but to most people it was pretty obvious that strengthening the midfield further was a bigger priority than making sure we had 7 or 8 first team striker on our books. We certainly needed a new striker. Ayew isn't really and out and out one and Gestede is too limited to be starting every week for us. I think too it should've been either Kodjia or McCormack not both, Would rather the other 10m + gone on another midfielder obviously and also another wide player with pace as we don't have anymore when Adomah picks up injuries. I think that's partly why SB has reintroduced Gabby into the fold. If we want to play counter attack football it helps if you have more than one pacy wide player in your squad.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 It cannot be denied we needed Kodjia; he has already shown his worth. But we needed cover for injuries or ACN, so we bought the best in the division - McCormack. But we needed a midfielder as well, not in stead of. Having said that, Tshibola is not being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 1, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2016 Fitted the way Di Matteo wanted to play but under Bruce will probably be an expensive bit part player and it wouldn't surprise me at all if you see McCormack leave at the end of January when Kodjia and Ayew return from the African Nations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 1, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 1, 2016 35 minutes ago, striker said: Fitted the way Di Matteo wanted to play but under Bruce will probably be an expensive bit part player and it wouldn't surprise me at all if you see McCormack leave at the end of January when Kodjia and Ayew return from the African Nations? The way Di Matteo wanted to play? Nobody's figured that out yet including Di Matteo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 1 hour ago, striker said: Fitted the way Di Matteo wanted to play 5 up front? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I think he is a talented player but I can see why he doesn't start. You do have to wonder whether Xia (who openly said he wanted abig name striker) pushed through this deal ( one of the leagues top scorers) rather than RDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 53 minutes ago, villa89 said: 5 up front? We would switch to that when defending. Normal operations would be 6 up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 It feels a bit like when we finally got Bent and then promptly sold our wingers and turned into a terrible defensive team, thus making his arrival a waste of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 It's looking like he may turn out to be the worst signing of the lot, when everyone is fit I don't have a clue where he is supposed to fit in. £12m for a 30 year old championship striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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