TRO Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) When we built a new training ground, I was expecting better things, we have got gradually worse. it strikes me that this lot are out of their depth....a great ground and a fantastic training ground will not do it for them. its like walking in to the Ritz and seeing beans on toast on the table. Edited November 21, 2015 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm not blaming him for today but its a huge confidence destroyer. I really don't think our players have got the fight in them to stay up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Remi Garde is not to blame Edited November 21, 2015 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Different manager, same result.... Lerner has killed this club!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hev Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 5 minutes ago, lexicon said: Poor Remi. Sherwood's damage is pretty deep-rooted it seems. Lerner's damage you mean. Problem always has been at the top. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 2 minutes ago, Hev said: Lerner's damage you mean. Problem always has been at the top. Nah, I don't mean that at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 1 minute ago, Hev said: Lerner's damage you mean. Problem always has been at the top. 6 years of shit, under 5 managers, and the managers still get a lot of the blame. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Lerner, fox and the team they've assembled have ruined us as a premier league team. No manager is getting anything out of these useless players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 2 minutes ago, Hev said: Lerner's damage you mean. Problem always has been at the top. Lerner obviously isn't blameless and I'd like to see him sell up as soon as possible (to the right owners obviously) but Sherwood's got to take a lot of the blame for the position we're in right now this season. Even under Lambert we managed to keep ourselves from getting cut adrift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 21, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2015 I didn't see the game so if we've been our usual shit selves, then yes it's not great. But one point from Man City & Everton. I'd have taken that beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 13 minutes ago, Mantis said: Lerner obviously isn't blameless and I'd like to see him sell up as soon as possible (to the right owners obviously) but Sherwood's got to take a lot of the blame for the position we're in right now this season. Even under Lambert we managed to keep ourselves from getting cut adrift. From what we're told Sherwood wasn't in charge of recruitment. Sherwood did a shit job but come on, we've been absolutely shit for 5 years with 5 different managers. It's quite clearly down to this **** owner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 16 minutes ago, Mantis said: Lerner obviously isn't blameless and I'd like to see him sell up as soon as possible (to the right owners obviously) but Sherwood's got to take a lot of the blame for the position we're in right now this season. Even under Lambert we managed to keep ourselves from getting cut adrift. Benteke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 21, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2015 30 minutes ago, TRO said: When we built a new training ground, I was expecting better things, we have got gradually worse. it strikes me that this lot are out of their depth....a great ground and a fantastic training ground will not do it for them. its like walking in to the Ritz and seeing beans on toast on the table. At least most people like beans on toast. We're more like cat food on broken glass at the moment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The players are shite. Don't think any manager could keep them up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 First time we have been thrashed all season. Awful performance from the players, absolutely the managers fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Remi got it horribly wrong. Sit back and let them create as much as they want, not an ideal game plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Well, the manager can hardly be blameless can he? The park the bus tactic blew up in our faces, it gave Everton carte blanche to do what they wanted with the ball and unsurprisingly, they smashed three past us in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 7 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Well, the manager can hardly be blameless can he? The park the bus tactic blew up in our faces, it gave Everton carte blanche to do what they wanted with the ball and unsurprisingly, they smashed three past us in the first half. The most confusing thing for me was that the tactics were at complete odds with the players selected. He picked an attacking line up and sent them out to park the bus, strange decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Everton have struggled at home when not scoring early , we tried to achieve that but failed miserably. I'm not sure what tactics would have worked against there front 4 who are all in fantastic form.LB is a massive problem and as played out alot of our issues came from that side.Richardson is a converted LM and the other options are either a CB there or aa Right footed player there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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