Farlz Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Was really poor in the 1st half but 2nd he looked a lot better. Confidence grew once he scored, which was a great header. He'll be in my good books for a little while anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I thought he was one of the decent players first half, won pretty much every header. Really pleased he scored. He's not going to be great but he can be a threat if we play to his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonVilla Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 His first touch was atrocious at times but the one that counted was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Great header, keeper had no chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) I thought he was one of the decent players first half, won pretty much every header. Really pleased he scored. He's not going to be great but he can be a threat if we play to his strengths. Yeah, that's how I see it too. I'm slightly surprised at some of the stick he's getting on here tonight . . . a lot of his knock-downs in the first half reached another player. Yes, he doesn't have the one-touch-control technique of Benteke, but did anyone really think he would do? Assuming he doesn't actually set the tactics himself, it's not actually his fault that the first half seemed to involve lumping it to him when midfielders were 25 yards behind the ball. He also came into the game better in the second half, when there was less hoofing, which is a positive sign, and used his strength more. An improved performance.PS. I think we need to get used to seeing him, because if Kozak is out of the picture, there's not much else. Gabby was shit and then got injured, Sinclair was bullied by the centre backs when he had his back to goal, and Ayew looked much better playing out wide. Edited September 22, 2015 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Classic Gestede. Does nothing, but gets a chance. This time he scored, against West Brom he didn't. Shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He won us the game, but he was a bit rubbish. Again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojong Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I hope I'm wrong but I guess this is what we'll get from him: absolutely nothing except an occasional great goal. Well, that's not too bad if it happens 10-15 times a season. Yes he wins a lot of headers but unlike some other similar players, his headers don't almost ever seem to lead to anything. I know it could be because of people around him too but it now has looked like 9 out of 10 of his touches are totally meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Was good tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Its clear that he is a one trick pony. His touch is atrocious and he isn't actually that great at holding the ball up which is kind of the point in having a lump upfront. That said, that one trick is pretty damn impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 His header was Tony Hateley like....for the older fansHe has the touch of a hippopotamus.....but do you know what, his muscle was essential tonight.I was warming to him the longer the game went on.His headers are like exocet's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Garbage for 85% of the matchWon it for us with a header, then improved.Needs to contribute more, he looks very labored, is he carrying an injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Doesn't even look like a footballer.If he scores 10 of them a season happy days but **** me, he makes Harewood look elegant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) 3 starts - 2 goals = donkey on VT. Love this place Edited September 23, 2015 by villan_007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted September 23, 2015 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2015 If he plays, then the tactics need to match. We need to get the ball wide and whip in crosses.IF we do that, he will score goals.What we need to get out of the habit of, is everyone just hoofing it up to him because he's on the pitch. We had the same problem sometimes under Lambert. "I'm under a bit of pressure, I'll just hoof it up to the big man"Benteke could do very little with that sort of service, and Gestede can do even less.I think Gestede can be an asset for us. But we need to use him correctly. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Absolutely agree Stevo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) If he plays, then the tactics need to match. We need to get the ball wide and whip in crosses.IF we do that, he will score goals.What we need to get out of the habit of, is everyone just hoofing it up to him because he's on the pitch. We had the same problem sometimes under Lambert. "I'm under a bit of pressure, I'll just hoof it up to the big man"Benteke could do very little with that sort of service, and Gestede can do even less.I think Gestede can be an asset for us. But we need to use him correctly.Spot on. Also those crosses need to be closer to the byline (15 yards or less) like Amavi's was. Bacuna and Hutton, for example, often don’t get close enough to the byline; instead of trying to get past the man they will just lump the ball in on the angle but those balls rarely work. Edited September 23, 2015 by Gary Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 He seems more concerned with wrestling his man out of the way when going for a high ball rather than trying to win the ball so he ends up ducking rather than jumping. Annoying player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Was good tonight.If he didn't score he'd be getting hammered on here. I thought he was terrible apart from the goal. The balls just bounces off him and he has 50p feet. Needs to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Was good tonight.If he didn't score he'd be getting hammered on here. I thought he was terrible apart from the goal. The balls just bounces off him and he has 50p feet. Needs to improve.Not from me he wouldn't (though I also don't think scoring the match-winning goal is exactly irrelevant either). As I said above, it's true that he doesn't have the close control of a top Premier League striker. But I can't believe that this isn't well-known and understood at this point, so the question becomes how we best play to his strengths. I'm not claiming he was brilliant yesterday, but he had a good second half, and the ball was just aimlessly hoofed to him less then. He's no Benteke, but what they share is that tactics involving firing balls at their heads/chests and then trying to retain possession via knockdowns are going to work once in a hundred attempts and frustrate all the other times. Good defenders will always deal with that stuff. He was actually more productively involved in the tie when the ball was on the floor. We need to keep possession, and find the room to cross to find his head, not just launch it towards him and then blame him if he can't maintain possession when the closest half-dozen players are opposition defenders and midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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