Demitri_C Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Taking one for the team is total bollocks, it's not as though it was on the edge of our own area, it was in their half, yes they were breaking, but he didn't have to dive in like that at all, and he had cover around him. What on earth are you on about? That's so contradictory. 'Yes they were breaking ' - that's dangerous. He stopped the break. If he fouled someone on the edge of the area, it would have been a far more stupid thing to do as it would mean that they'd have a great scoring chance. He stopped the break and nullified that threat. Sanchez is a good player and unfairly maligned on here. His passing is inconsistent - sometimes good, sometimes not but he wins the ball well and is generally a bit of a rock of a DM. I agree with lexicon, we were in deep trouble hadn't sanchez did not do that. also we don't exactly have a great record of not conceding late goals do we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Taking one for the team is total bollocks, it's not as though it was on the edge of our own area, it was in their half, yes they were breaking, but he didn't have to dive in like that at all, and he had cover around him. What on earth are you on about? That's so contradictory. 'Yes they were breaking ' - that's dangerous. He stopped the break. If he fouled someone on the edge of the area, it would have been a far more stupid thing to do as it would mean that they'd have a great scoring chance. He stopped the break and nullified that threat. Sanchez is a good player and unfairly maligned on here. His passing is inconsistent - sometimes good, sometimes not but he wins the ball well and is generally a bit of a rock of a DM. I agree with lexicon, we were in deep trouble hadn't sanchez did not do that. also we don't exactly have a great record of not conceding late goals do we? What if we had conceded a late goal because we only had 10 men on the pitch? The idea that it is a good thing to get yourself sent off has to be nonsense, even if our manager thinks so. Anyway, don't think we'll miss Sanchez that much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djemba_Villan Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I think the role Sanchez plays for us is one which will always mean he'll be underrated by our own support. His specialism is man marking players out of games, collecting the ball from CBs and giving the ball to forward looking midfielders alongside him. These aren't traits which get you off your seat, and most of the time (ref: marking) go unnoticed. It's generally a case that if an opposition flair player has a quiet game, and Sanchez's name is seldom mentioned by a commentator...he's had a good game. But as football fans, we herald the Reo-Coker/Delph type player who we see running box-to-box and making hollywood tackles. He's the Roy Keane/Wise/Flamini/Lucas kind of player but without the leadership element. He will never play the sitting, possession based role of Westwood/Cleverly of old, nor the cut and thrust role of Delph. I thought he was fantastic yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I think the role Sanchez plays for us is one which will always mean he'll be underrated by our own support. His specialism is man marking players out of games, collecting the ball from CBs and giving the ball to forward looking midfielders alongside him. These aren't traits which get you off your seat, and most of the time (ref: marking) go unnoticed. It's generally a case that if an opposition flair player has a quiet game, and Sanchez's name is seldom mentioned by a commentator...he's had a good game. But as football fans, we herald the Reo-Coker/Delph type player who we see running box-to-box and making hollywood tackles. He's the Roy Keane/Wise/Flamini/Lucas kind of player but without the leadership element. He will never play the sitting, possession based role of Westwood/Cleverly of old, nor the cut and thrust role of Delph. I thought he was fantastic yesterday. I personally dislike the fact that he is often caught in possession of the ball. He is often caught out of position. He sometimes tries to tackle from the offensive side of the defender. He gives free kicks away on the edge of our penalty area. He rushes in to challenge for the ball and is too easy to beat 1v1. He does however put in a good tackle sometimes and wins headers. He does have skill and is capable of an occasional good pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Taking one for the team is total bollocks, it's not as though it was on the edge of our own area, it was in their half, yes they were breaking, but he didn't have to dive in like that at all, and he had cover around him. What on earth are you on about? That's so contradictory. 'Yes they were breaking ' - that's dangerous. He stopped the break. If he fouled someone on the edge of the area, it would have been a far more stupid thing to do as it would mean that they'd have a great scoring chance. He stopped the break and nullified that threat. Sanchez is a good player and unfairly maligned on here. His passing is inconsistent - sometimes good, sometimes not but he wins the ball well and is generally a bit of a rock of a DM. I agree with lexicon, we were in deep trouble hadn't sanchez did not do that. also we don't exactly have a great record of not conceding late goals do we? What if we had conceded a late goal because we only had 10 men on the pitch? The idea that it is a good thing to get yourself sent off has to be nonsense, even if our manager thinks so. Anyway, don't think we'll miss Sanchez that much. That would be a very good point had we actually conceded and that scenario played out. As it is, in reality, it's just another mindless piece of criticism based on a hypothetical set of circumstances that didn't happen. What if they had scored from the break? See, I can play too. Christ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 They potentially had a last minute counter attack on, from which if they had scored we would have only drawn the game. I have no problem with Sanchez taking one for the team to break their attacking momentum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't think it was as needed as some claim. Surely if it was every played should have been hacking down spurs players in the last few minutes. Rose was still in his own half when the foul took place and its not like we had all our players all out attack and no one covering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Wouldnt have had to make the tackle in the first place if the ref had done his job and pulled up Danny Rose for his foul 5 seconds prior... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted April 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2015 Wouldnt have had to make the tackle in the first place if the ref had done his job and pulled up Danny Rose for his foul 5 seconds prior... This is true - but show's Sanchez's naivety. The constant fouling (and getting away with it!) is exactly how spurs beat us at home - only the sucker there was Benteke. He should have known they would revert to type when it was obvious they couldn't beat us any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 it was a wise decision by Sanchez, Spurs had the ball the numbers and the momentum which he killed by getting the red card. meaning Spurs had a free kick in a non dangerous area and when we could filter everybody back Do people not remember the Swansea goal a few weeks back or only mention it when moaning about Sherwood tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 What if we had conceded a late goal because we only had 10 men on the pitch? The idea that it is a good thing to get yourself sent off has to be nonsense, even if our manager thinks so. Anyway, don't think we'll miss Sanchez that much. It was the 95th minute and to Sánchez's mind, quite likely to be the last attack of the game (he wasn't to know the referee would be a total bellend and play seven minutes of added time). He prevented what would've been a rare (perhaps the only) occasion where they would've had a man over during a transition and he ensured they couldn't capitalise on that. Fair play to him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't think it was as needed as some claim. Surely if it was every played should have been hacking down spurs players in the last few minutes. Rose was still in his own half when the foul took place and its not like we had all our players all out attack and no one covering. As Isa has pointed out above they had a man over and were breaking at pace. Maybe it was easier to see live, but they were one pass away from being clear in on goal. He simply had to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I think it was just a badly-timed, late challenge personally. Still, we'll manage without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_Mike Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 He will be missed next week. He is very scary and a liable to put us in trouble when he has the ball but he does so much work breaking up and covering the oppositions attacks I think he does more good than bad. If he could speed up his game just by a second or 2 we have a great defensive midfielder on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I think a number of our players were unhappy that the referee did not give a free kick for us, and because of that I think Sanchez went in hard. I like Sanchez, thought he had a good game, but I do not think he `took one for the team' or was breaking up a dangerous attack or was aware that he was throwing away a Wembley semi final. He just basically went in hard and recklessly as he is wont to do at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Some serious overreaction pandas on here.. Ahh.. close, but i was after the sexual harassment panda from south park gif.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I think the role Sanchez plays for us is one which will always mean he'll be underrated by our own support. His specialism is man marking players out of games, collecting the ball from CBs and giving the ball to forward looking midfielders alongside him. These aren't traits which get you off your seat, and most of the time (ref: marking) go unnoticed. It's generally a case that if an opposition flair player has a quiet game, and Sanchez's name is seldom mentioned by a commentator...he's had a good game. But as football fans, we herald the Reo-Coker/Delph type player who we see running box-to-box and making hollywood tackles. He's the Roy Keane/Wise/Flamini/Lucas kind of player but without the leadership element. He will never play the sitting, possession based role of Westwood/Cleverly of old, nor the cut and thrust role of Delph. I thought he was fantastic yesterday. He has the EASIEST role in the team. He has to win the ball and pass a simple ball to his teammate. Not rocket science. Yet he struggles to even pass it safely a few yards to a teammate. The guy is a clown and a positive from yesterday is that he is one less serious liability on Sunday. The sooner Westwood comes back the better. Keane/Viera/Makelele were obviously on another level to Sanchez. However look at George Boateng. He played the DM role well for us (even though originally I beleive he was brough as an AM). Won the ball and despite being negative, did the simple passes well. All this BS about Sanchez not having a preseason doesnt wash for me. You dont need a preseason to not be a liability with his passes and control on the ball like Sanchez is. Westwood is far superior in every way then Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't think it was as needed as some claim. Surely if it was every played should have been hacking down spurs players in the last few minutes. Rose was still in his own half when the foul took place and its not like we had all our players all out attack and no one covering. As Isa has pointed out above they had a man over and were breaking at pace. Maybe it was easier to see live, but they were one pass away from being clear in on goal. He simply had to try. Maybe it was. It looked to me like we had the back 4 plus weimman, cleverly and sanchez in front of Rose once he fouled delph. I'm still not sure he had to fly in like he did. Hopefully, and I never thought i'd say this, Westwood will be back in to take over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2015 I've been one if his biggest critics but I can't believe how many people are saying he was crap yesterday. I thought it was one of his best games for us until the red card. I do agree that, taking one for the team or not, the red card was silly from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I've been one if his biggest critics but I can't believe how many people are saying he was crap yesterday. I thought it was one of his best games for us until the red card. I do agree that, taking one for the team or not, the red card was silly from him. I thought he had games earlier this year where he looked top class but I really thought he was one of our worst players. I'm surprised quite a few in this thread thought he did so well. Looking at the match reactions and websites like whoscored and squawka he got pretty low ratings on all three. He did far more bad things that good things yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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