Nigel Posted May 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2013 The sessegnon appeal fails , 3 match ban upheld I think Di Canio was deluded if he thought that would be over-ruled. I think Sunderland will get points from Stoke and Southampton so they will be fine. Im not so sure, they looked toothless without him on Monday! I cant see where they are going to get goals from, Graham is perhaps the worst striker in the league and now he has lost his main supply route. well tehy werent exactly great with him cant agree on Graham is a very good football player he is just not a goalscorer. Was an idiot to leave Swansea for Sunderland at that time Well unfortunately for him he is paid to be a striker. There are obviously things that i miss with him but I just cant see what he offers. I sat and watched him warm up before Mondays game and I dont think he managed a shot on goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 The Di Canio/Sunderland love in will end in tears. He may be able to bully league one/two players but it'll be totally different in the prem. They'll tell him to get fudged. Many of them will see it as a chance to get out of Sunderland too. And who wouldn't want an opportunity like that? Totally what I've been saying all week. Short term he's fine, but what type of player would want to play under him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 It's a shame they have 2 home games coming up against shite/teams on holiday already. Can't see them going down now. Newcastle will beat QPR, we just need to do our job on Saturday. Yes that's why I think they will stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2013 The Di Canio/Sunderland love in will end in tears. He may be able to bully league one/two players but it'll be totally different in the prem. They'll tell him to get fudged. Many of them will see it as a chance to get out of Sunderland too. And who wouldn't want an opportunity like that? Totally what I've been saying all week. Short term he's fine, but what type of player would want to play under him? I completely agree: Personally I don't think Di Canio will be a success in the long term there. I think he was the perfect manager to bring in when they did. He's passionate enough and lively enough to get the players fired up and win a couple of games when he first comes in. But from what my Swindon supporting mate tells me about him, I think he's more likely to upset a lot of players the longer he's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Dunno about this. Swindon were very successful under him, and players like being part of a successful team. I can see his methods not working at a Man U or Chelsea, but Sunderland are hardly overloaded with quality players. I reckon for every one he alienates, there will be another few he brings the best out of and turns into better players. Don't get me wrong though, still gotta be a high chance of a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22552413'>And so it begins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Another 6-1 please.. Cmon Bale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2013 I'd love the chairman to come out and reduce Di Canio's holiday for losing 6-1 to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I alluded to it earlier in the season, but I think Sunderland will be screwed once the players see past Di Canio's bravado. It's only a matter of time before he pisses the wrong player off and turns the players completely against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 That's a sure fire way to lose the dressing room if ever there was one. Keep it up Paulo old mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) He'll be gone by christmas. In fact he'll probably be gone sooner when they are rooted to the bottom in October (with West Brom of course). Edited May 16, 2013 by R.I.C.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I'd love the chairman to come out and reduce Di Canio's holiday for losing 6-1 to us. Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 His most major flaw is that where as most managers with a big brash personality will use that to take the pressure off their players Di Canio does precisely the opposite. He practically wrote our team talk when we thrashed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I alluded to it earlier in the season, but I think Sunderland will be screwed once the players see past Di Canio's bravado. It's only a matter of time before he pisses the wrong player off and turns the players completely against him. Sounds like it's a pretty bad atmosphere right now. Wonder how he's going to shift those players if he gives them such a poor public write-up. Not exactly enticing for prospective buyers. Paolo Di Canio has painted a remarkable picture of wide-ranging indiscipline in his Sunderland squad, claiming that the levels of "arrogance" and "ignorance" are worse than those he encountered at Swindon Town, his previous club, and making it plain he wants to see sweeping changes in personnel over the summer. The manager opened up as he explained the reasons for the omission of Phil Bardsley from the squad that travelled to London for Sunday's 1-0 defeat against Tottenham Hotspur. Di Canio had been incandescent when he saw a photograph of the defender lying on a casino floor and covered in £50 notes. Bardsley and some of his team-mates had gone out to watch Arsenal's televised victory over Wigan Athletic on Tuesday night – the result that secured Sunderland's Premier League survival – and he went on to the casino with one of them, Matt Kilgallon. Di Canio said that the photograph of Bardsley, which was posted on a website, had disgusted him, but it quickly became apparent that the indiscretion was not the only thing that had bothered him since he took over from Martin O'Neill at the end of March. Di Canio fined seven of his squad last week alone for various breaches of the code of conduct that he has introduced and he spoke with scarcely concealed contempt at the attitude of certain players, dwelling upon what he sees as their flippant disregard for the basic rules of the profession. "At the beginning, I thought it was difficult," Di Canio said. "Week by week … daily … I discover that we have more problems than I expected. That's why I said to everybody we made a miracle [to avoid relegation] because what we discovered this week is only one aspect of the problems we've got. It doesn't mean that everybody goes out every night and has a drink session. No. I'm talking in general about professionalism. "This week, there have been seven fined and this morning, once again … a player that I could not involve in the squad for a different reason decided: 'I don't train today.' He said he had food poisoning. He made the diagnosis. Sorry, are you the doctor? The doctor tried to contact him. Three hours, he switched off his telephone. This is the situation at Sunderland." Bardsley accepted being left out of the squad and denied that he had been drunk. But Di Canio tore into him. "What we saw is something really wrong, it's disgusting me even to see the image for the club," he said. "It's not about going out late with your friend and getting back at two, three o'clock, which is late but you can close one eye. But full of alcohol? "It takes three or four days [to recover]. I realised in the morning [on Wednesday], before I had seen the picture, that I wouldn't play Phil on Sunday. I told my assistant. Why? I speak to him [bardsley] and he look in the sky. He can't listen. He's blurry. "We have a fantastic academy … but if we don't punish this kind of behaviour, how do they grow up? Thinking they can laugh about what they saw on the website picture? Maybe they think it's fantastic; to be like a gangster. But what mentality are we going to deliver?" Di Canio spoke with rising levels of anger about the fines that he had handed out last week. One, he said, was to an injured player who left the club at lunchtime and switched off his phone. He also mentioned an incident after the 6-1 defeat at Aston Villa on 29 April when a few players ambled in 20 minutes late for a 4pm meeting the following day. "When I gave the fine the day after [to the injured player], he was surprised," Di Canio said. "Before, it was normal. To leave and switch off the phone, and the day after everybody forgot because it was more convenient. They don't have friction with the player. I don't care about having an argument with my players. "This is the behaviour in the Premier League, at a club that every year spent millions and millions. It's not acceptable. I thought that at Swindon … arrogant, ignorant footballers … I have to tell you, unfortunately, I found a worse environment in terms of discipline at this club. This is what I found so we have to change completely." Di Canio was asked whether he would be prepared to keep the indisciplined players. He said he was not. "We need to bring in six or seven players," he added, "… who know how to behave and have a professional ethic. Otherwise, for me, it's difficult. The owner knows many things. He told me: 'We are going to change many things. Relax.' So it sounds that he supports me completely. We will see in the future." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted May 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2013 Say what you will about Di Canio, but I'm told the trains on Wearside are running on time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I'll bet he was an "arrogant footballer" in his playing days too. Dude is acting like he was squeaky clean and is so shocked with what he's seeing. You were in the PL too lest we forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islingtonclaret Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 He might be losing the dressing room, but I'd hardly defend the players. Bardlsey's a right gimp in the casino pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDish Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just know it will end in tears. But he has a point (though he is wrong to make it a public matter). Some of the attitudes among professional football players are poor and they need to get disciplined. Seems like he is struggling with the same behaviour as we have had after O'Neill. I think Lambert's approach has been more sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I'll bet he was an "arrogant footballer" in his playing days too. Dude is acting like he was squeaky clean and is so shocked with what he's seeing. You were in the PL too lest we forget. At one of his clubs might have been West Ham under Roeder he was so unhappy with the fitness training he went and hired his own personal trainer. He was a controversial character but he was never anything but professional in how he took care of himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongotastic Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 The problem Di Canio has is that he is well out of his depth managerially. He took a very large league two team in Swindon Town and got them promoted by outspending everyone else (to the point that they were hit with a transfer embargo). Not saying he doesn't have the potential to be a decent manager but his record is no different from people like John Sheridan, Keith Hill and Garry Waddock. Would they get a premier league manager's job? Compare his credentials with Lambert who took a League One team, got them in the premier league and then kept them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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