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To be fair Trump has a point when he says that the other countries aren't carrying their weight. This has been a problem for years and years. McNamara had a proper go at the same world leaders years ago for the exact issue. It's not USA's job to make sure that places like Turkey, Lithuania, Croatia, Norway etc. can defend themselves against Russia/threat. It's an alliance - we've all got to share in the responsibility.

The way he said it was funny though - he doesn't really know how to be a politician does he?

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35 minutes ago, villaglint said:

Off topic loosely but has there ever been a really funny Villain like Trump in Movie/Books? Struggling to think of one 

Dr Evil from Austin Powers.

Deluded, out of touch and surrounded by sycophantic cronies.

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15 hours ago, StefanAVFC said:

Gianforte wins the house seat.

America is broken.

Talking heads on Fox News and similar outlets managed to find a way to defend him, of course:

'While the reactions of Gianforte’s Republican colleagues in Congress ranged from condemnation to justification and even humor, many voices in the conservative media eagerly defended the assault (though there were notable exceptions). Pundits on Fox News explained that the California-born, Pennsylvania-raised Gianforte had merely given Jacobs a taste of “Montana justice.” Geraldo Rivera, of Brooklyn, New York, explained that Montanans “are no strangers to the more robust way of living.” The conservative pundit Laura Ingraham, who hails from the mean streets of Glastonbury, Connecticut, asked, “What would most Montana men do if ‘body slammed’ for no reason by another man?”'

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/the-better-part-of-valor/528384/

Still, thankfully the election is over now and Montana can be represented a newly-calm congressman who will begin the task of pressing his not-inconsiderable intellect to the nation's most pressing issues. Like retirement:

'There's nothing in the Bible that talks about retirement. And yet it's been an accepted concept in our culture today. It's like, nowhere does it say 'Well, he was a good and faithful servant, so he went to the beach'. You know, it doesn't say that anywhere. And you think back, and the example I think of is Noah. How old was Noah when he built the ark? 600. Yeah, okay. He wasn't, like, cashing social security checks, he wasn't hanging out, he was working. Right? So I think we have an obligation to work.'

I look forward to the quality of debate in American politics improving still further in the future. 

 

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13 hours ago, magnkarl said:

To be fair Trump has a point when he says that the other countries aren't carrying their weight. This has been a problem for years and years. McNamara had a proper go at the same world leaders years ago for the exact issue. It's not USA's job to make sure that places like Turkey, Lithuania, Croatia, Norway etc. can defend themselves against Russia/threat. It's an alliance - we've all got to share in the responsibility.

The way he said it was funny though - he doesn't really know how to be a politician does he?

The people who voted for him most likely love his NATO shenanigans. He's playing to them, not the mob of elite socialist Europeans in Brussels. So in one way, he does know what he's doing, and it's just won him the White House. In international affairs, he doesn't have to really try to do anything, he'll coast along and let his advisors push policy.

 

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6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

'There's nothing in the Bible that talks about retirement. And yet it's been an accepted concept in our culture today. It's like, nowhere does it say 'Well, he was a good and faithful servant, so he went to the beach'. You know, it doesn't say that anywhere. And you think back, and the example I think of is Noah. How old was Noah when he built the ark? 600. Yeah, okay. He wasn't, like, cashing social security checks, he wasn't hanging out, he was working. Right? So I think we have an obligation to work.'

 

 

I'm sorry but that is just mental illness. 

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9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

'There's nothing in the Bible that talks about retirement. And yet it's been an accepted concept in our culture today. It's like, nowhere does it say 'Well, he was a good and faithful servant, so he went to the beach'. You know, it doesn't say that anywhere. And you think back, and the example I think of is Noah. How old was Noah when he built the ark? 600. Yeah, okay. He wasn't, like, cashing social security checks, he wasn't hanging out, he was working. Right? So I think we have an obligation to work.'

I look forward to the quality of debate in American politics improving still further in the future. 

 

It's like these politicians don't know how to use aides and people to help them come across a bit better. Full flown circus.

That being said, I still feel a lot of media/tv shows are taking the whole thing to a new level with silliness though. What would Saturday Night Live be doing without half of their content every week being about Trump? The whole poking fun at Trump thing is getting a bit old really, like a joke that was really funny last year. Everyone's stooping to Trump's level by acting like school children, which I presume is what Trump wants so he can argue back in his immature language.

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5 hours ago, magnkarl said:

What would Saturday Night Live be doing without half of their content every week being about Trump? 

I watch SNL every week. This is absolute bollocks.

The cold open maybe 2 out of 3 times would be about Trump & then they'd have one other sketch about the Trump administration (e.g. Ivanka's 'Complicit' perfume commercial or MM doing Spicer.)

So out of maybe 16/17 sketch's maybe 2 are about Trump. 

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23 hours ago, magnkarl said:

. What would Saturday Night Live be doing without half of their content every week being about Trump?

probably what they've done for the prior 41 years.

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