ml1dch Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 28/05/2017 at 11:26, peterms said: Interesting history undoubtedly, but terrible use of language. Sons-in-law 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 5/27/2017 at 09:40, Chindie said: Kushner wanted a secret communications line to Russia, apparently. All above board of course. Par for the course in foreign relations where the public and private positions of powers differ (e.g., US-China opening way back, Obama's Iran deal), be that due to the politicians being two-faced or being restrained by their electorate (e.g., Iran-Israel-Saudi-Arabia). Given Kushner's position in the admin prior to the election he's the exact sort of private citizen that gets tapped up to do the introductory work. Yes, optics are not good, but these things would happen in public if they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 30, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 hours ago, villakram said: Par for the course in foreign relations where the public and private positions of powers differ (e.g., US-China opening way back, Obama's Iran deal), be that due to the politicians being two-faced or being restrained by their electorate (e.g., Iran-Israel-Saudi-Arabia). Given Kushner's position in the admin prior to the election he's the exact sort of private citizen that gets tapped up to do the introductory work. Yes, optics are not good, but these things would happen in public if they could. It's not unusual for opposing nations to have behind the scenes dialogue - during the Cuban Missile Crisis there were many back channel conversations between various members of the US and Soviets (to the extent that at the height of the crisis JFK sent his brother to have an of the record chat begging Khrushchev to stand down). That's a bit different to having a secret phone line though I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 30, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) In happier news, the New York Times had a bit if an 'and finally' story today that should make you smile, or shake your head. He stole his coat of arms. He nicked the arms given to the family of the bloke that built Mar-a-Lago. But made an all important, and utterly predictable, change. The motto on the original, Integritas, was replaced with Trump. Would you expect anything less?! And, he can't use it in the UK. Edited May 30, 2017 by Chindie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Teehee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rodders Posted May 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2017 serious news alert, it appears, that in support to his long ago claim to having all the best words, he's now invented a new one. #covfefe. I am very new to twitter - and can see how this is so easily a timewaster. Think this is my favourite pisstake so far: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 14 hours ago, Chindie said: It's not unusual for opposing nations to have behind the scenes dialogue - during the Cuban Missile Crisis there were many back channel conversations between various members of the US and Soviets (to the extent that at the height of the crisis JFK sent his brother to have an of the record chat begging Khrushchev to stand down). That's a bit different to having a secret phone line though I think. Yep spot on. Dialogue that is not in the public domain is just fine. Doing it in secret from the sitting government then missing the meetings off the forms he had to fill in to get security clearance in certainly not business as usual. The reason he is in trouble is the allegation that he has tried to set up a secret dialogue with the Kremlin specifically to ensure that the sitting US Government could not track it (Obama was still in charge whilst this was happening). There really isn't a legitimate reason to do this and even if there is a legitimate reason that they can come up with, the fact that he denied/omitted ever having the meeting to set it up is a federal offense. Jared is in a spot of trouble I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2017 Sod the illiterate tweets have you seen him swaying and singing the national anthem at Arlington Cemetary when he's supposed to be still and silent remembring the war dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choffer Posted May 31, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2017 48 minutes ago, Rodders said: serious news alert, it appears, that in support to his long ago claim to having all the best words, he's now invented a new one. #covfefe. I am very new to twitter - and can see how this is so easily a timewaster. Think this is my favourite pisstake so far: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Come back in a couple of hours when they have worked out what they want it to mean My fav response so far is: Covfefe: When you make a mistake, but play it off like you knew what you were doing. "Trump's entire Presidency was a real covfefe." Edited May 31, 2017 by Straggler link broken 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 hour ago, bickster said: Sod the illiterate tweets have you seen him swaying and singing the national anthem at Arlington Cemetary when he's supposed to be still and silent remembring the war dead Looks like he was struggling to remember half of it, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Unsurprisingly lots of twits enjoying twitter. Won't any of you spare a thought for poor Kathy G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Is this like when the NFL takes 9 weeks to announce it's top 100 players for the season ? I feel like it should take a few seconds tops to announce his decision . FWIW it's worth Polar bears are bloody dangerous and I can't wait until they're extinct . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 The fact that he keeps ending these Accord tweets with MAGA leads me to believe he's already announced his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 California has already said **** that shit, we are still abiding by the Paris accord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Brumerican said: The fact that he keeps ending these Accord tweets with MAGA leads me to believe he's already announced his decision. The fact that he refused to sign a communique with every other leader of the G7 during the recent gathering leads me to believe he's already announced his decision as well, and it's (naturally) completely the wrong one. It's not irrelevant, but reductions in greenhouse gas emissions were always going to have to happen without American political leadership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Explanation of why the US criticises Iran for lack of democracy, but not Saudi Arabia. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 1, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2017 37 minutes ago, peterms said: Explanation of why the US criticises Iran for lack of democracy, but not Saudi Arabia. Just wow. How does the room not erupt in laughter at that? I thought he was going to ask for his mum when he got the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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