Jareth Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, punkiller1981 said: To be fair he went from champions league to the championship for I assume money reasons so it’s not a shock he chooses Saudi blood money 100 bloody percent correct. I don't blame Neves, but clearly you can go for glory or go for big money - I think he has his head screwed on. He played for Wolves! Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Says to me the market for him wasn't that great, if the offers for him were sideways or to non European clubs or even non existent that what else is he to do? Mendes and wolves won't care, £50m is a great fee for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Neves to Saudi and then loaned to Newcastle as a favour I reckon. Help the regime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I think wolves are going to be **** without him personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Porto captain -> Wolves captain -> Al Hilal (captain?) Has there ever been a more regressive “start of” career? Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Jareth said: If Saudi want to pump £50m at you for a player with 1 year left on his contract - everybody takes it. This is the real money men showing their power. They will keep doing it. Then they can loan them all to newcastle for peanuts Wont shock me if he stays for one year then ends up at Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Interesting suggestion, Al-Hilal or any of the saudi state owned clubs could transfer someone to Newcastle for an ‘undisclosed’ fee, i.e. nothing. Do clubs have to disclose the transfer fees to someone, just not the public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Interesting suggestion, Al-Hilal or any of the saudi state owned clubs could transfer someone to Newcastle for an ‘undisclosed’ fee, i.e. nothing. Do clubs have to disclose the transfer fees to someone, just not the public? well all transfers need to be ratified by the PL...now i'm not sure what that process entails but one would assume that part of that is that the transfer is somewhat around market value? i.e. a 26 year old regular of a tier 1 nation in his prime with 4 years left on the contract would have a market value of more than nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Xela said: Neves to Saudi and then loaned to Newcastle as a favour I reckon. Help the regime. Interesting thought, I suppose there's absolutely no way that could be prevented either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Interesting suggestion, Al-Hilal or any of the saudi state owned clubs could transfer someone to Newcastle for an ‘undisclosed’ fee, i.e. nothing. Do clubs have to disclose the transfer fees to someone, just not the public? interesting. seems that they can indeed sign them for the saudi league, then send them to newcaslte for nowt, were that to be their wish: https://www.ft.com/content/ee668cd3-1927-411c-ab7b-dfecb19c9f08 Quote Uefa’s report also cautioned that the increasing prevalence of the multi-club model “has the potential to distort” the transfer market for players because “an increasing percentage of transfers being executed within multi-club investment groups at prices that suit investors, rather than at fair values”. “Most movement of players within multi-club investment groups is via ‘free transfers’ or loans, meaning that no fees are paid,” it added. one would hope, that the first time we see someone sent to newcastle on a free, there will be immediate steps taken to get that loophole closed Edited June 18, 2023 by tomav84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Jareth said: If Saudi want to pump £50m at you for a player with 1 year left on his contract - everybody takes it. This is the real money men showing their power. They will keep doing it. Great new tool for clubs to get around FFP aswell. Isn't a Saudi club interested in Ziyech so you can see Chelsea offering likes of Pulisic and Lukaku to that league aswell and bank on one inflated fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Interesting suggestion, Al-Hilal or any of the saudi state owned clubs could transfer someone to Newcastle for an ‘undisclosed’ fee, i.e. nothing. Do clubs have to disclose the transfer fees to someone, just not the public? Its possible but Saudi Arabia are looking to host the World Cup soon. Its better for the product if players want to play there Newcastle could have probably signed Neves for 30 million considering contract situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Its possible but Saudi Arabia are looking to host the World Cup soon. Its better for the product if players want to play there Newcastle could have probably signed Neves for 30 million considering contract situation Yeah but if they loan him (no idea if that's actually going to happen, just speculating) then Newcastle are taking on no risk. They can take a look at him for a year, work out a deal with the puppet club if they like him (or just loan him again) or if it doesn't work nae bother mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 19, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 19, 2023 So the PIF now own Newcastle, Chelsea and four clubs that exist outside of the reach of FFP? I have a horrible feeling that Neves won't be the first of these. FWIW, Wolves look like they might be in trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted June 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 19, 2023 5 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: So the PIF now own Newcastle, Chelsea and four clubs that exist outside of the reach of FFP? I have a horrible feeling that Neves won't be the first of these. FWIW, Wolves look like they might be in trouble. From what I've seen it only says the PIF use Clearlake to make investments and they are one of several firms they use. Is there anything showing they are actually shareholders in Clearlake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Gotta love the cope of some of their fans on Twitter that he’s coming back on a free in three years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Gotta love the cope of some of their fans on Twitter that he’s coming back on a free in three years For their playoff push? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I don't think it will happen as they only announced he was staying last week, but Lopetegui being linked with a move to Saudi now to manage Al Hilal. Probably lazy link as it's the same team that Neves is signing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Think wolves are going to desperately miss him. He literally was their midfield. I wont miss him scoring against us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 And they’re losing Collins and Moutinho. They’re going to really struggle next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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